| Topic:batterys best deal etc.... [message #72210] |
Fri, 29 January 2010 21:49  |
 |
gmcdude76
Messages: 102
Registered: December 2009
Location: Northern Ca
Karma: 1
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Hello Gmcers
This has been discussed numerus times i have to replace
mine now.i have also discovered i have a working Buz box.i havent
upgraded my conveter charger as of yet.its the original design.i
only want to replace whats not working.so if decide to actually travel it would be there when needed.
Gmc76Birchaven 23'94947
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] Topic:batterys best deal etc.... [message #210105 is a reply to message #72217] |
Thu, 06 June 2013 15:38  |
lw8000
Messages: 201
Registered: July 2012
Location: S.E. Michigan
Karma: 1
|
Senior Member |
|
|
This is good to know about the buzz box boiling the batteries. Is there any concern with the main engine's alternator doing the same thing to the house batteries? Just curious as we are about to invest in new house batteries as well. Currently looking at a pair of the Duracell EGC2 at Sam's.
Thanks!
--
Chris
| Mr ERFisher wrote on Fri, 29 January 2010 22:54 |
I would not get too good a battery, your buzz box will be boiling the water
out from day one ;>)
gene
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Don,
>
> In a word Wal-Mart.
>
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Don
> Sent: Saturday, 30 January 2010 2:50 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Topic:batterys best deal etc....
>
> Hello Gmcers
>
> This has been discussed numerus times i have to replace
> mine now.i have also discovered i have a working Buz box.i havent
> upgraded my conveter charger as of yet.its the original design.i
> only want to replace whats not working.so if decide to actually travel it
> would be there when needed.
>
> --
> "Thanks in advance"
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> List Information and Subscription Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>
--
Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
-------
http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
List Information and Subscription Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
|
Chris S. -
77 Kingsley, 3.70 FD, mostly OEM -
S.E. Michigan
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Topic:batterys best deal etc.... [message #210135 is a reply to message #72210] |
Thu, 06 June 2013 21:07 |
JohnL455
Messages: 4447
Registered: October 2006
Location: Woodstock, IL
Karma: 12
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Matt that is a different twist on how I understood it somewhat based on a article Wes wrote a while back. (FWIW) Buzz is a constant (non smart) output but only around 13v so it never finished the charge, but would never taper off so it would cause water loss. A Delco alt puts out 14.2 when cold and the regulator tapers down to about 13.8 when hot, roughly emulating the required charge voltage vs batt temp curve. It's ok to plug in the coach for a few hours, but don't leave it plugged in for days. Then driving the coach will final finish the charge so as not to sulfate the house batt. If you use the Buzz wisely as above you don't have to dump it now, but it sure is nice to loose the boat anchor and get space back as well all the while having the battery properly maintained. Both banks if you have a combiner.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
|
|
|
|
| Re: Topic:batterys best deal etc.... [message #210173 is a reply to message #72210] |
Fri, 07 June 2013 07:35 |
mickey szilagyi
Messages: 273
Registered: January 2013
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Matt and John,
We are in the process of replacing the buzz box with a Inteli-power 60 amp Converter charge wizard RV PD9260C from Progressive Dynamics. And we are purchasing two golf cart batteries to go back in the battery compartment as the house batteries. So, we understand that with this new equipment we will prevent the house batteries from being damaged from overcharging when either plugged in to shore power or when running the generator.
Sorry to still seem confused but... we want to make sure the house batteries are equally protected when charging occurs from the engine alternator. For instance, if we travel for an extended period of time where we are driving for 24 hours or longer and the house batteries are being charged by the engine alternator, is there any possibility that the engine alternator will overcharge and damage the house batteries? To further complicate this scenario we may also have the generator operating while driving, thus powering the converter. It sounds like the answer is no - no matter how long the engine alternator supplies charging current to the house batteries it will not damage them.
We would like to address all the possibilities that could occur in power usage from the various sources we may use so the house batteries remain charged but also protected. In the next few weeks we hope to finalize our house electrical system and hope to have it done correctly. Mention has been made about a combiner so we'd like to include one if it will enhance what we are trying to do.
Sorry for the repetitive questions. We know just enough about what we are doing to try and do all this ourselves but not enough to do it without help.
Thank you all again,
Mickey
77 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
Mickey
1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] Topic:batterys best deal etc.... [message #210180 is a reply to message #210173] |
Fri, 07 June 2013 08:30 |
 |
USAussie
Messages: 15912
Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Karma: 6
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Mickey,
I have an Avion that also has two batteries in the back under the driver side bunk. I have NO idea how a 77 Kingsley is wired,
however, when I went to a 60amp PD like yours the fuse on the line that supplies 12vdc to the house (and receives charging current
from the PD) kept blowing. Being electrically challenged I just kept changing it. I finally realized that if you try and stuff 60
amps through a 40 amp fuse it will blow. I replaced the fuse with a 60 amp circuit breaker and all's well.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mickey Szilagyi
Matt and John,
We are in the process of replacing the buzz box with a Inteli-power 60 amp Converter charge wizard RV PD9260C from Progressive
Dynamics. And we are purchasing two golf cart batteries to go back in the battery compartment as the house batteries. So, we
understand that with this new equipment we will prevent the house batteries from being damaged from overcharging when either plugged
in to shore power or when running the generator.
Sorry to still seem confused but... we want to make sure the house batteries are equally protected when charging occurs from the
engine alternator. For instance, if we travel for an extended period of time where we are driving for 24 hours or longer and the
house batteries are being charged by the engine alternator, is there any possibility that the engine alternator will overcharge and
damage the house batteries? To further complicate this scenario we may also have the generator operating while driving, thus
powering the converter. It sounds like the answer is no - no matter how long the engine alternator supplies charging current to the
house batteries it will not damage them.
We would like to address all the possibilities that could occur in power usage from the various sources we may use so the house
batteries remain charged but also protected. In the next few weeks we hope to finalize our house electrical system and hope to have
it done correctly. Mention has been made about a combiner so we'd like to include one if it will enhance what we are trying to do.
Sorry for the repetitive questions. We know just enough about what we are doing to try and do all this ourselves but not enough to
do it without help.
Thank you all again,
Mickey
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] Topic:batterys best deal etc.... [message #210249 is a reply to message #210223] |
Fri, 07 June 2013 20:00 |
mickeysss
Messages: 1476
Registered: January 2012
Karma: 0
|
Senior Member |
|
|
be sure and get this wire on your alternator:
http://gmcmotorhomeinfo.com/APC.html
It can stop from having a melt down of the wire harness.
best regards mickey :-) anaheim ca.
On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:16 PM, A. wrote:
>
>
> Mickey Szilagyi wrote on Fri, 07 June 2013 07:35
>> ...Sorry to still seem confused but... we want to make sure the house batteries are equally protected when charging occurs from the engine alternator. For instance, if we travel for an extended period of time where we are driving for 24 hours or longer and the house batteries are being charged by the engine alternator, is there any possibility that the engine alternator will overcharge and damage the house batteries?...
> The alternator will only overcharge and damage the house batteries if it is malfunctioning. It will kill the chassis battery too, so you will know.
> --
> '73 23' Sequoia For Camping
> '73 23' CanyonLands For Sale
> UA (Upper Alabama)
> "Time is money. If you use YOUR time, you get to keep YOUR money."
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
|
|
|
|
GMCforum
Search
Help
Register
Login
Home
