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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361592 is a reply to message #361545] Sat, 09 January 2021 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robert Cowan is currently offline  Robert Cowan   United States
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Thank you all for these posts. It’s great to see that the water supply runs behind the shower module without interruption to the galley sink. Reconnecting the galley sink won’t be nearly as difficult as I thought. You all are more helpful than I could have imagined. Thank you J.R. Wright for the photos, they are great..
I have spent some time with Nick and Jim, since my coach went into their shop for repairs immediately after I drove it from Wyoming. You are correct, It is convenient having that shop relatively nearby.

Rob, do you have any photos related to removing the module?

Bdub, please send Billy my email. I would love to meet him and to see his rehab work

Thank you also for explaining TZE. At the DMV, they looked for the VIN for 20 minutes and I am not sure they ever found it.
My next question is what’s the best way to restore the shower module. My wife refuses to shower in it because of how it looks and feels got her. Though I am fine with it, if I want her to join me on excursions, I have to do something to upgrade it. I welcome your thoughts?

Rc


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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361593 is a reply to message #361592] Sun, 10 January 2021 00:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RC, Unfortunately I don't have any photos of the removal of the shower module.

Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361594 is a reply to message #361593] Sun, 10 January 2021 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RC, As far as I know there aren't any direct replacements for an Avion shower module. It is made of fiberglass and if you spray it with a heavy duty cleaner such as Mr. Clean and then scrub it with a stiff brush you should be able to remove anything that your wife finds objectionable. You could also clean the fiberglass with a compound that is used on fiberglass boats. If it's the door that she doesn't like you can replace it with a shower curtain, here's a link to that installation.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6498-avion-shower-curtain-installation.html

IIRC I copied this idea from someone but I can't remember who.


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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Shower Module [message #361599 is a reply to message #361590] Sun, 10 January 2021 02:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I sniffed a little Mueller there. What up Rob!?

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 6:18 PM Larry via Gmclist
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> USAussie wrote on Sat, 09 January 2021 17:02
>> G'day, I've read this entire thread and it appears J.R. Wright has
> provided all the info you need to replace the galley kitchen and bathroom
>> plumbing without removing the shower. I removed the shower module in the
> GMC I have in Sydney and it was a lot of work and not easy.
>
> Hey Rob,
> Good to see you back!
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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Shower Module [message #361600 is a reply to message #361590] Sun, 10 January 2021 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If Rob sent a message to the Phorum, we've got an email disconnect again,
'cause I haven't gotten it.

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On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 9:18 PM Larry via Gmclist
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> USAussie wrote on Sat, 09 January 2021 17:02
>> G'day, I've read this entire thread and it appears J.R. Wright has
> provided all the info you need to replace the galley kitchen and bathroom
>> plumbing without removing the shower. I removed the shower module in the
> GMC I have in Sydney and it was a lot of work and not easy.
>
> Hey Rob,
> Good to see you back!
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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Shower Module [message #361601 is a reply to message #361600] Sun, 10 January 2021 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 10.01.21 12:19, Ken Henderson via Gmclist wrote:
> If Rob sent a message to the Phorum, we've got an email disconnect again,
> 'cause I haven't gotten it.

Just verified: The forum has a message, I didn't receive Rob's message
from the forum via mail either :-(


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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361629 is a reply to message #361594] Sun, 10 January 2021 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you for the advice on cleaning the fiberglas. I love my wife of 29 years with all of my heart, including her prissy-ness. I think she dislikes it because it looks old and yellowed. If Mr. Clean doesn’t work, I may try painting it, since there’s no replacement module. Anyone have any advice on how to restore it to like new?

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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Shower Module [message #361631 is a reply to message #361629] Sun, 10 January 2021 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Show her some new RV Class A motorhomes. Include the window sticker. Big
$$$$. Payments for several years. 14% interest, depreciation of 20% as soon
as you drive it off the lot. That old bath module will be much easier to
sell to her.
But, failing that, find some really good paint that is compatible with
the shower module, mask it off very carefully and make sure you super clean
the surfaces and have it dust free and very dry. Pick a light, bright
color, one that she likes. Do a good job. She should like it.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 2:41 PM Robert Cowan via Gmclist <
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> Thank you for the advice on cleaning the fiberglas. I love my wife of 29
> years with all of my heart, including her prissy-ness. I think she dislikes
> it because it looks old and yellowed. If Mr. Clean doesn’t work, I may
> try painting it, since there’s no replacement module. Anyone have any
> advice on how to restore it to like new?
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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361641 is a reply to message #361545] Sun, 10 January 2021 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Absolutely hilarious. I will skip the shopping spree and opt for the second choice. If anyone has experience with restoring fiberglas shower, please let me know. Thank you all for your contributions. This has been great. Blessings to you all
Rc


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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361647 is a reply to message #361545] Sun, 10 January 2021 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another thought to make the shower more acceptable is natural light. Not sure how Avion fan/light is setup, but many have said a fantastic fan (and its resultant brightening) make the bath better.

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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361648 is a reply to message #361647] Sun, 10 January 2021 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Installing a bigger and better light/vent fan is pretty easy. Standard 14" unit will fit. You might need to check before you cut anything, if there is a pod or the roof rails might cause a problem with your proposed location. I installed a newer small fan in one of my Avion's bathroom. Measure twice, cut once LOL.
There are commercial companies that will spray/recoat the bath interior. Senior moment is failing to bring the names from my aged brain. I had a bath redone in a house that I sold. It really looked excellent when they got finished. Job in the Avion should only take 1/2 day.


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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361650 is a reply to message #361648] Mon, 11 January 2021 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RC, Somebody posted photos of installing a Fantastic Fan in an Avion but for the life of me I can't remember who! Anybody remember?



Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361682 is a reply to message #361545] Tue, 12 January 2021 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The current fan is pitiful. I will definitely add a fan installation to my upgrade-todo list.

I have to think about a skylight, since space is so limited. Natural light would help make the space seem bigger and more comfortable.

I went online and found a post that showed how to clean and restore a fiberglass shower with borax and vinegar, which I plan to buy today or tomorrow

Rc


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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Shower Module [message #361693 is a reply to message #361682] Tue, 12 January 2021 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim K sells a dandy looking fan with LED light that would be good for the bathroom if you don’t want to cut a big hole for the fantastic fan.

Larry Davick
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Fremont, Ca

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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361697 is a reply to message #361629] Tue, 12 January 2021 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Cowan wrote on Sun, 10 January 2021 17:40
Thank you for the advice on cleaning the fiberglas. I love my wife of 29 years with all of my heart, including her prissy-ness. I think she dislikes it because it looks old and yellowed. If Mr. Clean doesn’t work, I may try painting it, since there’s no replacement module. Anyone have any advice on how to restore it to like new?
Robert,

The only thing I have done with shower modules is use them, but I can't begin to tell you how many yards of fiberglass I have cleaned and rejuvenated. The surface is undoubtedly something call Gel-coat. This is just a color finish for the laminate. Its surface goes dark with age. So, go to a boat store and see what they have to brighten up old fiberglass. Do not try to sand it, the Gelcoat is only 3~5 mills (0.003~5") thick.

If that doesn't work, I can be painted. The best paints are really expensive and difficult/dangerous to handle, but you don't need those. To bad you can't actually buy a badger brush any more.

Matt


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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361701 is a reply to message #361650] Tue, 12 January 2021 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob & Robert
Check the photo posts by powerjon

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p30640-avion-bath-vent.html

And - in his album Armand mentions painting the bath with Krylon Fusion.

Hope this helps.

Dennis


USAussie wrote on Mon, 11 January 2021 02:59
RC, Somebody posted photos of installing a Fantastic Fan in an Avion but for the life of me I can't remember who! Anybody remember?



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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361704 is a reply to message #361701] Tue, 12 January 2021 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My wet bath has a standard GMC 14" fan that the PO installed in the same location of the original small fan.

No idea what he did but works good.

I am a fan of chocolate.


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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361719 is a reply to message #361701] Tue, 12 January 2021 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you Dennis for the pics of the installed fan. It looks like it will move a lot of air. I will look at Jim’s fan but from what I hear about coach smells, I think I’ll need the one that moves the most air Wink

Matt, After you have restored the shower, how long does it typically take to yellow again?

Does anyone have a way to contact Dean Hansen, who Bdub says lives in Fremont, CA? I would love to connect with him and see his coach


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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361725 is a reply to message #361719] Wed, 13 January 2021 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Cowan wrote on Wed, 13 January 2021 00:04
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Matt, After you have restored the shower, how long does it typically take to yellow again?

Does anyone have a way to contact Dean Hansen, who Bdub says lives in Fremont, CA? I would love to connect with him and see his coach
Robert,

On the exterior of a boat, it will look good for 3 or 4 years. That is out in the sun. I suspect the shower maybe longer.

Hang around a while more, Dean writes here from time to time.

Matt


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Re: Avion Shower Module [message #361729 is a reply to message #361725] Wed, 13 January 2021 10:07 Go to previous message
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Thank you Matt

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