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Re: My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359580 is a reply to message #359285] Sun, 18 October 2020 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Changed out the bridge rectifier on the Onan and voila.... she puts out power again!! Bought a big one, shouldn't have any more issues with that.

Runs great, doesn't smoke or make any funny noises.

Didn't even have to pull the generator. I raised the rear of the coach all the way, slid the drawer out and changed it out from underneath.

I'm going to order a set of head gaskets and de-carbon the heads since I have no idea if it's ever been done.

Thanks for the suggestions!!

Jared


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Re: [GMCnet] My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359581 is a reply to message #359580] Sun, 18 October 2020 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Be careful to turn off all loads on the generator, BEFORE TURNING OFF THE
GENERATOR. Particularly the roof air.
Jim Hupy
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On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 6:54 PM Jared via Gmclist
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> Changed out the bridge rectifier on the Onan and voila.... she puts out
> power again!! Bought a big one, shouldn't have any more issues with that.
>
> Runs great, doesn't smoke or make any funny noises.
>
> I'm going to order a set of head gaskets and de-carbon the heads since I
> have no idea if it's ever been done.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions!!
>
> Jared
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Re: [GMCnet] My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359582 is a reply to message #359581] Sun, 18 October 2020 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Hupy wrote on Sun, 18 October 2020 19:08
Be careful to turn off all loads on the generator, BEFORE TURNING OFF THE
GENERATOR. Particularly the roof air.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
I certainly did remember to do that, and will hopefully continue to do so.

Matt mentioned that he thought that's what caused his rectifier to crap out.

I've got 2 more.... just in case.

Jared


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Re: [GMCnet] My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359585 is a reply to message #359581] Sun, 18 October 2020 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jared,
With the new fuel blend w/o lead, there is no need to clean your head.
Your reading a 45 year old instruction.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:08 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <
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> Be careful to turn off all loads on the generator, BEFORE TURNING OFF THE
> GENERATOR. Particularly the roof air.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 6:54 PM Jared via Gmclist
> wrote:
>
>> Changed out the bridge rectifier on the Onan and voila.... she puts out
>> power again!! Bought a big one, shouldn't have any more issues with that.
>>
>> Runs great, doesn't smoke or make any funny noises.
>>
>> I'm going to order a set of head gaskets and de-carbon the heads since I
>> have no idea if it's ever been done.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions!!
>>
>> Jared
>> --
>> Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
>>
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>>
>> 73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359589 is a reply to message #359585] Mon, 19 October 2020 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimk wrote on Sun, 18 October 2020 19:50
Jared,
With the new fuel blend w/o lead, there is no need to clean your head.
Your reading a 45 year old instruction.
Would you agree that it should be done if it never has been done?

I'm sure for a portion of it's 47 years, it was ran on leaded fuel.

Head gaskets are cheap, and they are simple to replace.

I have a collection of 30 something vintage John Deere garden tractors. One of the first things I do after I acquire a new one and get it running is pull the head for a cleaning. It has the added benefit of being able to judge engine wear based on the condition of the cylinder walls.

It's not that I'm reading 45 year old instructions, it's just a good idea to do it if you don't know when or if it has ever been done.

Jared


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Re: [GMCnet] My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359592 is a reply to message #359589] Mon, 19 October 2020 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lotsofspareparts wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 07:35

Would you agree that it should be done if it never has been done?
I'm sure for a portion of it's 47 years, it was ran on leaded fuel.
Head gaskets are cheap, and they are simple to replace.
I have a collection of 30 something vintage John Deere garden tractors. One of the first things I do after I acquire a new one and get it running is pull the head for a cleaning. It has the added benefit of being able to judge engine wear based on the condition of the cylinder walls.
It's not that I'm reading 45 year old instructions, it's just a good idea to do it if you don't know when or if it has ever been done.
Jared
Jared,

Go on and pull the heads, knock off the big flakes.

NOW, if the head gaskets are asbestos filled copper, Leave them ALONE. Do your best to not hurt them while you clean the piston crown. If you bought new gaskets, you will note that they are not the MFM (metal-filler-metal) that are there. The reason is that those gaskets were expensive to make. They are very good with the limber cylinder head castings like old F-head engines all have. If they are undamaged, when you screw the heads back down, they will work as well (and maybe better with the re-torque) than they did before. You do have to be sure that they stay on the same side and go back where they came from.

Matt


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Re: My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359593 is a reply to message #359580] Mon, 19 October 2020 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After I de-carbonizing mine the Onan ran a lot smoother. If is amazing how much build up inside after 200 hours of run time. I have done mine twice in the last 10 or 15 years.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359595 is a reply to message #359580] Mon, 19 October 2020 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I de-carboned The heads on the 6k in The War Pig and re used the gaskets.
Worked fine. Someone I think on here suggested to put a layer of anti seize
on the exposed side of the gasket prior to installation which I did. There
was a lot of carbon on the heads/ pistons.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:54 PM Jared via Gmclist
wrote:

> Changed out the bridge rectifier on the Onan and voila.... she puts out
> power again!! Bought a big one, shouldn't have any more issues with that.
>
> Runs great, doesn't smoke or make any funny noises.
>
> I'm going to order a set of head gaskets and de-carbon the heads since I
> have no idea if it's ever been done.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions!!
>
> Jared
> --
> Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
>
> 77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
>
> 73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
>
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Re: [GMCnet] My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359599 is a reply to message #359595] Mon, 19 October 2020 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The trick that I was taught was to spray both sides of the gasket with aluminum paint several times and then reuse.

J.R. Wright
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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Todd Sullivan via Gmclist wrote:
>
> I de-carboned The heads on the 6k in The War Pig and re used the gaskets.
> Worked fine. Someone I think on here suggested to put a layer of anti seize
> on the exposed side of the gasket prior to installation which I did. There
> was a lot of carbon on the heads/ pistons.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:54 PM Jared via Gmclist
> wrote:
>
>> Changed out the bridge rectifier on the Onan and voila.... she puts out
>> power again!! Bought a big one, shouldn't have any more issues with that.
>>
>> Runs great, doesn't smoke or make any funny noises.
>>
>> I'm going to order a set of head gaskets and de-carbon the heads since I
>> have no idea if it's ever been done.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions!!
>>
>> Jared
>> --
>> Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
>>
>> 77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
>>
>> 73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] My "Buzz Box" is buzzing, no power reaching the house battery [message #359601 is a reply to message #359599] Mon, 19 October 2020 13:21 Go to previous message
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powwerjon wrote on Mon, 19 October 2020 12:32
The trick that I was taught was to spray both sides of the gasket with aluminum paint several times and then reuse.

J.R. Wright
J.R.

Real aluminum paint will work well, if you let it dry completely.
So will good anti-sieze, or a dry moly-cote.
The fact is, is any gasket has not been damaged, it can be reused and will work at least as well as it ever did.

Matt


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