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Gas Tank Vent Mod [message #366968] Sun, 26 September 2021 12:59 Go to next message
MikeB is currently offline  MikeB   United States
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I’m currently doing a total fuel system update. The PO used the existing hard vent line to vent just the main tank and ran a separate 7/16” hose from Aux tank to a “T” fitting into the small length of hose just below fuel filler. I suppose this was to allow for faster fill ups. I’m thinking of going back to a single line branching to each tank like factory. Any find this mod beneficial?

Thanks


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Re: Gas Tank Vent Mod [message #366970 is a reply to message #366968] Sun, 26 September 2021 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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That was a suggested modification a few years back, although I haven't heard much about it lately. If there are no bellies or dips in the vent line, it might be a better system than the original set-up. As long as the added vent line doesn't hold gas in it anywhere, it would theoretically vent the tank more efficiently than the factory system.

The original venting works well if it is in good original operating condition, but I can see where separate vent lines, to a tee, as you've described might work better. With mine in the stock configuration, I can fill the tanks easily up to the point where the gas starts to burble in the filler neck, then I have to wait 30 seconds to a minute before slowly topping it off, sometimes with as much as an additional 5 - 10 gallons.


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Re: Gas Tank Vent Mod [message #366973 is a reply to message #366968] Sun, 26 September 2021 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MikeB wrote on Sun, 26 September 2021 13:59
I’m currently doing a total fuel system update. The PO used the existing hard vent line to vent just the main tank and ran a separate 7/16” hose from Aux tank to a “T” fitting into the small length of hose just below fuel filler. I suppose this was to allow for faster fill ups. I’m thinking of going back to a single line branching to each tank like factory. Any find this mod beneficial?

Thanks
Mike,

Search for Recommending High T.

It is the result of a CFD analysis that I did years ago.

Matt


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Re: Gas Tank Vent Mod [message #366974 is a reply to message #366973] Sun, 26 September 2021 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MikeB is currently offline  MikeB   United States
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Matt Colie wrote on Sun, 26 September 2021 21:37
MikeB wrote on Sun, 26 September 2021 13:59
I’m currently doing a total fuel system update. The PO used the existing hard vent line to vent just the main tank and ran a separate 7/16” hose from Aux tank to a “T” fitting into the small length of hose just below fuel filler. I suppose this was to allow for faster fill ups. I’m thinking of going back to a single line branching to each tank like factory. Any find this mod beneficial?

Thanks
Mike,

Search for Recommending High T.

It is the result of a CFD analysis that I did years ago.

Matt
I should have known. My PO has done some pretty good mods. This statement from your post clears it up. “ because the rear (main) tank actually fills first (with little regard to vehicle trim (ride height front to back), it will always flood the vent line if given the opportunity”.

I’ll be replacing the High T.

Thanks


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[GMCnet] Re: Gas Tank Vent Mod [message #366983 is a reply to message #366974] Mon, 27 September 2021 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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We have done at least two coaches a month in the lat 20 years and found
that if done right, the filling of the taks are fast and reliable.
I have not seen Matt's mod so I do not understand how that works.
We like to do things in a way other GMC shops can follow.

On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 8:22 PM wrote:

> Matt Colie wrote on Sun, 26 September 2021 21:37
>> MikeB wrote on Sun, 26 September 2021 13:59
>>> I’m currently doing a total fuel system update. The PO used the
> existing hard vent line to vent just the main tank and ran a separate
>>> 7/16” hose from Aux tank to a “T” fitting into the small length of
> hose just below fuel filler. I suppose this was to allow for faster fill
>>> ups. I’m thinking of going back to a single line branching to each
> tank like factory. Any find this mod beneficial?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Search for Recommending High T.
>>
>> It is the result of a CFD analysis that I did years ago.
>>
>> Matt
>
> I should have known. My PO has done some pretty good mods. This statement
> from your post clears it up. “ because the rear (main) tank actually
> fills first (with little regard to vehicle trim (ride height front to
> back), it will always flood the vent line if given the opportunity”.
>
> I’ll be replacing the High T.
>
> Thanks
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> TBI EBL , 3.70 LSD and other stuff
> Zuki Sidekick,
> Dozier Al
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Gas Tank Vent Mod [message #366985 is a reply to message #366983] Mon, 27 September 2021 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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Not sure why you wouldn't want the separate Aux tank vent line. Seems to me it may help venting and wouldn't hinder it at all. When I did my tanks a year or so ago, I did the 'High T' mod. I was under there recently and tied up a few places where it dipped a quarter inch or so on its way forward.


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Re: Gas Tank Vent Mod [message #366987 is a reply to message #366968] Mon, 27 September 2021 14:03 Go to previous message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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I just completed the "High "Y" mod. I used Stainless straight tubing, .065 wall thickness and a brass "Y" fitting that had a 1/2" barb on one side. I found the Brass "Y" fitting on Ebay. I wanted to make sure there was no pooling of fuel in the line. I can't comment on its effectiveness, but by all accounts it should vent each tank separately until the bottom of the cockpit floor and just before the 1/2" OEM tube at the gas fill.

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