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Wed, 08 September 2021 11:03  |
hertfordnc
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Just curious about what's been done in the past.
Besides a flat-bed tractor trailer, (most expensive option) What else has been done to move a coach beyond tow truck range?
There are lots of modern diesel trucks that can pull the weight. And the approach angle could be worked out.
Is there a tow dolly wide enough?
I just want to know what the options are when it comes up.
Seems like so many viable coaches are separated from willing lunatics by too many miles.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| [GMCnet] Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366585 is a reply to message #366579] |
Wed, 08 September 2021 12:37  |
sgltrac
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My personal experience with tow dolly’s are that they SUCK! Hard to back
up and sometimes the fenders hit the vehicle when the deck pivots on turns.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 9:04 AM dave silva wrote:
> Just curious about what's been done in the past.
>
> Besides a flat-bed tractor trailer, (most expensive option) What else has
> been done to move a coach beyond tow truck range?
>
> There are lots of modern diesel trucks that can pull the weight. And the
> approach angle could be worked out.
>
> Is there a tow dolly wide enough?
>
> I just want to know what the options are when it comes up.
>
> Seems like so many viable coaches are separated from willing lunatics by
> too many miles.
> --
> Dave & Ellen Silva
> Hertford, NC
>
> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
>
> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
>
> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
>
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| [GMCnet] Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366588 is a reply to message #366579] |
Wed, 08 September 2021 13:01 |
johnd01
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People who sell 40-foot shipping containers know what the least
expensive way to move them is. Most use a 1-ton or larger truck with a
fifth-wheel trailer that can get under the front edge and winch it onto the
trailer. The trailer then elevates to the travel position. Make sure they
know how much weight is involved.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 9:04 AM dave silva wrote:
> Just curious about what's been done in the past.
>
> Besides a flat-bed tractor trailer, (most expensive option) What else has
> been done to move a coach beyond tow truck range?
>
> There are lots of modern diesel trucks that can pull the weight. And the
> approach angle could be worked out.
>
> Is there a tow dolly wide enough?
>
> I just want to know what the options are when it comes up.
>
> Seems like so many viable coaches are separated from willing lunatics by
> too many miles.
> --
> Dave & Ellen Silva
> Hertford, NC
>
> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
>
> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
>
> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
>
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| [GMCnet] Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366590 is a reply to message #366579] |
Wed, 08 September 2021 14:06 |
Bikertrash
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We used a GMC Savana 1500, tow strap & CB's, LOL
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 12:04 PM dave silva wrote:
> Just curious about what's been done in the past.
>
> Besides a flat-bed tractor trailer, (most expensive option) What else has
> been done to move a coach beyond tow truck range?
>
> There are lots of modern diesel trucks that can pull the weight. And the
> approach angle could be worked out.
>
> Is there a tow dolly wide enough?
>
> I just want to know what the options are when it comes up.
>
> Seems like so many viable coaches are separated from willing lunatics by
> too many miles.
> --
> Dave & Ellen Silva
> Hertford, NC
>
> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
>
> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
>
> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
>
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| Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366592 is a reply to message #366579] |
Wed, 08 September 2021 14:31 |
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Matt Colie
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hertfordnc wrote on Wed, 08 September 2021 12:03Just curious about what's been done in the past.
Besides a flat-bed tractor trailer, (most expensive option) What else has been done to move a coach beyond tow truck range?
There are lots of modern diesel trucks that can pull the weight. And the approach angle could be worked out.
Is there a tow dolly wide enough?
I just want to know what the options are when it comes up.
Seems like so many viable coaches are separated from willing lunatics by too many miles.
Dave,
These answers are based on my personal and direct experiences.
My very person experiences were, local, 20 miles, 44 miles and 76 miles. They were a large normal roll-back, a Landol, a larger than most roll-back and that Landol again. The same Landol but different drivers, both were highly skilled people.
I can't tell you about a standard flat bed or low-boy. I can show you pictures of mine on a Landol. A Landol is designed for this manner of foolishness.
Yes, many modern HD pickups could have the towing capacity for a 26 TZE at 14K, but the final load would be in the permits required weight range.
As the coaches are already 96wide and w/o permits ends a 108 in all states (102 in some), it would be really tough to build a dolly.
Some of the newer and larger roll-backs can lift and carry a 26TZE.
The expense of such is still going to be a big issue.
When first acquired by the prior owner, the transmission failed somewhere near Yosemite. They had the coach trucked back to Cinnabar for repair. That is all I know about that.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| [GMCnet] Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366593 is a reply to message #366590] |
Wed, 08 September 2021 14:40 |
stu@97381.com, Emery
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Dave
Bob Drewe’s (RIP) once towed a GMC several hundred miles with a tow bar behind a pickup truck. He disconnected the front axles and just put in the stubs to hold the bearings and said it towed very well.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick CO
> On Sep 8, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Scott Campbell wrote:
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> We used a GMC Savana 1500, tow strap & CB's, LOL
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>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 12:04 PM dave silva wrote:
>>
>> Just curious about what's been done in the past.
>>
>> Besides a flat-bed tractor trailer, (most expensive option) What else has
>> been done to move a coach beyond tow truck range?
>>
>> There are lots of modern diesel trucks that can pull the weight. And the
>> approach angle could be worked out.
>>
>> Is there a tow dolly wide enough?
>>
>> I just want to know what the options are when it comes up.
>>
>> Seems like so many viable coaches are separated from willing lunatics by
>> too many miles.
>> --
>> Dave & Ellen Silva
>> Hertford, NC
>>
>> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
>>
>> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
>>
>> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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| [GMCnet] Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366594 is a reply to message #366585] |
Wed, 08 September 2021 14:46 |
jimk
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Avoid dollies if you can.
I have come off an exit only to find that there was not enough space to
maneuver with a toad.
Since all I had to do was pull two pins , cord and breakaway cord. I had
Grace drive around and not needed to tieup traffic.I prefer the built in
toed brake so I do not need to undo the portable brake pack.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 10:38 AM Todd Sullivan wrote:
> My personal experience with tow dolly’s are that they SUCK! Hard to back
> up and sometimes the fenders hit the vehicle when the deck pivots on turns.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
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> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 9:04 AM dave silva wrote:
>
>> Just curious about what's been done in the past.
>>
>> Besides a flat-bed tractor trailer, (most expensive option) What else has
>> been done to move a coach beyond tow truck range?
>>
>> There are lots of modern diesel trucks that can pull the weight. And the
>> approach angle could be worked out.
>>
>> Is there a tow dolly wide enough?
>>
>> I just want to know what the options are when it comes up.
>>
>> Seems like so many viable coaches are separated from willing lunatics by
>> too many miles.
>> --
>> Dave & Ellen Silva
>> Hertford, NC
>>
>> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
>>
>> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
>>
>> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
>>
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| [GMCnet] Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366597 is a reply to message #366593] |
Wed, 08 September 2021 15:19 |
jimk
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Emory is correct in explaining that the Axel stubs must be placed in
the hub
.I moved one without that for several blocks and ruined the knuckles.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 12:52 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Dave
> Bob Drewe’s (RIP) once towed a GMC several hundred miles with a tow bar
> behind a pickup truck. He disconnected the front axles and just put in the
> stubs to hold the bearings and said it towed very well.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick CO
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>> On Sep 8, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Scott Campbell
> wrote:
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>> We used a GMC Savana 1500, tow strap & CB's, LOL
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>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 12:04 PM dave silva wrote:
>>>
>>> Just curious about what's been done in the past.
>>>
>>> Besides a flat-bed tractor trailer, (most expensive option) What else
> has
>>> been done to move a coach beyond tow truck range?
>>>
>>> There are lots of modern diesel trucks that can pull the weight. And the
>>> approach angle could be worked out.
>>>
>>> Is there a tow dolly wide enough?
>>>
>>> I just want to know what the options are when it comes up.
>>>
>>> Seems like so many viable coaches are separated from willing lunatics by
>>> too many miles.
>>> --
>>> Dave & Ellen Silva
>>> Hertford, NC
>>>
>>> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
>>>
>>> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
>>>
>>> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>> AMCA
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| [GMCnet] Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366599 is a reply to message #366597] |
Wed, 08 September 2021 15:49 |
Ken Henderson
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I've been towed several times during the past 23 years with a standard
wheel-lift tow truck. The longest was 384 miles, mostly at 70 mph.
It's best if you can inflate the air bags all the way. Be sure the tow
operator doesn't lift the front enough to put the rear in danger of
touching the ground.
Ken H.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 4:19 PM Jim Kanomata wrote:
> Emory is correct in explaining that the Axel stubs must be placed in
> the hub
> .I moved one without that for several blocks and ruined the knuckles.
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 12:52 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Dave
>> Bob Drewe’s (RIP) once towed a GMC several hundred miles with a tow bar
>> behind a pickup truck. He disconnected the front axles and just put in
> the
>> stubs to hold the bearings and said it towed very well.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick CO
>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Scott Campbell
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We used a GMC Savana 1500, tow strap & CB's, LOL
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 12:04 PM dave silva wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just curious about what's been done in the past.
>>>>
>>>> Besides a flat-bed tractor trailer, (most expensive option) What else
>> has
>>>> been done to move a coach beyond tow truck range?
>>>>
>>>> There are lots of modern diesel trucks that can pull the weight. And
> the
>>>> approach angle could be worked out.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a tow dolly wide enough?
>>>>
>>>> I just want to know what the options are when it comes up.
>>>>
>>>> Seems like so many viable coaches are separated from willing lunatics
> by
>>>> too many miles.
>>>> --
>>>> Dave & Ellen Silva
>>>> Hertford, NC
>>>>
>>>> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
>>>>
>>>> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
>>>>
>>>> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> AMCA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366601 is a reply to message #366599] |
Wed, 08 September 2021 16:51 |
Carl S.
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My one tow job was, like Ken's, on the back of a front wheel lift truck. I fully inflated the air bags, the driver knew what he was doing, and we made it about 170 miles successfully. The driver said it was no different than towing a big fifth wheel.
I know that is not a great distance, but I would not hesitate to have a GMC towed farther with a wheel lift truck.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366622 is a reply to message #366579] |
Thu, 09 September 2021 07:34 |
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Richard RV
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Dave,
The operable word here is 'viable'. Decisions on towing always should start with how roadworthy the coach is, and let that determine prudent choice of tow vehicle. If the tires, airbags, frame, bearings, etc. are all in good shape than almost any type off tow will work.
Beware penny wise and pound foolish choices in towing. For example, don't hire a tow that shows up with a flatbed trailer, no winch (seriously?!) and requires hiring a wrecker to load the coach into the trailer. Long story... 🙄
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366629 is a reply to message #366579] |
Thu, 09 September 2021 09:46 |
hertfordnc
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Thanks Ya'll.
I guess I'm really asking about transporting as opposed to towing.
On the various social media spaces we have seen a bunch of neglected coaches around the country and someone says "if only it wasn't 500 miles away" (or 900 or 1500)
I just wanted to know what the options are.
The RV transporters using diesel one tons and a 35-foot gooseneck will do it for around $2./mile.
If you are really planning to raise one from the dead that $1500 towing bill will become a distant memory after you burned through $20,000 just to get it to run, drive and stop safely.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: Long distance transporting options- Tow Dolly? Low trailer? [message #366639 is a reply to message #366629] |
Thu, 09 September 2021 10:46 |
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Richard RV
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hertfordnc wrote on Thu, 09 September 2021 07:46If you are really planning to raise one from the dead that $1500 towing bill will become a distant memory after you burned through $20,000 just to get it to run, drive and stop safely.
Indeed! It'll also be the fastest part of the whole restoration.
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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