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Wheel Nuts [message #362825]

Sun, 14 March 2021 22:01

boybach

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Hi I just borrowed a *l o n g* lug wrench that fits the lug nuts on a coach wearing ION alloy shoes ...are the steel 16" rim lug nuts the same size and will the wrench fit???

Larry

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Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362826 is a reply to message #362825]

Sun, 14 March 2021 22:08

dsmithy

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Larry,
If they are stock steel wheel lug nuts the ION lug nut wrench probably will not fit. I just bought a set of ION's from JimK (Love them) but the lug nuts are a smaller size than my old 16.5 standard wheel lug nuts. I called Nick to confirm the recommended torque on the ION lug nuts and it is 145 foot/lbs. I always needed a 3 foot cheeter bar to break loose the steel wheel lug nuts, but my torque wrench is enough for the ION's. HTH
Doug

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[GMCnet] Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362827 is a reply to message #362826]

Sun, 14 March 2021 22:19

jimk

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You never use a flat surface not on an Aluminum wheel as it cuts into
the hole on the wheel has a tapered hole, then you use a tapered nut.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 8:08 PM Douglas Smith wrote:

> Larry,
> If they are stock steel wheel lug nuts the ION lug nut wrench probably
> will not fit. I just bought a set of ION's from JimK (Love them) but the lug
> nuts are a smaller size than my old 16.5 standard wheel lug nuts. I called
> Nick to confirm the recommended torque on the ION lug nuts and it is 145
> foot/lbs. I always needed a 3 foot cheeter bar to break loose the steel
> wheel lug nuts, but my torque wrench is enough for the ION's. HTH
> Doug
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Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362829 is a reply to message #362825]

Mon, 15 March 2021 11:09

lqqkatjon

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I would go off of memory that lug nut sizes very between wheels quite a bit.

I know with my dodge front wheels, I carry 2 lug nut sockets. I know there is some variance between OEM Aloca lug nuts and some aftermarket chrome one's. so I would venture out to believe that the Ion rims are could easily have an odd size lug nut.

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Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362832 is a reply to message #362825]

Mon, 15 March 2021 13:25

boybach

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Thanks for the replies.
Maybe a simpler question is: What size are the wheel nuts on standard 16" steel wheels? I just want to take the right size socket!

Larry

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Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362833 is a reply to message #362825]

Mon, 15 March 2021 17:34

JohnL455

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Stock are 7/8”
Alcoa are 1 1/16”
All I know.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

[Updated on: Mon, 15 March 2021 17:38]

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Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362834 is a reply to message #362825]

Mon, 15 March 2021 17:48

JohnL455

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Also Larry that’s a “My cousin Vinnie” trick question as there were no 16” standard wheels. They were 16 1/2”. 16” were an owner change.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

[Updated on: Mon, 15 March 2021 17:50]

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Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362836 is a reply to message #362834]

Mon, 15 March 2021 18:54

Matt Colie

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I loved that movie..... but it is a trick question.

All the flanged nuts for steel wheels are 7/8. Anything else is anybody's bet.
Many of us have changed to 16" steel wheels.
Problem: If you buy them used, chances of getting good wheels is slim. The vehicles these were on were mostly farm or work trucks....
I bought 16 to get 13 usable and had them blasted and powder coated. If I had know how it would work out, I would have bought alloy.
New steel can be had, but the cost interval to get allow is marginal and you loose about 30# of unsprung weight.

Matt

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Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362840 is a reply to message #362836]

Mon, 15 March 2021 19:46

boybach

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I have 16" steel wheels on the coach and am about to fit 7 new tires before driving it back home.

I guess I'll just take an assortment of impact sockets, 7/8" and some either side of 7/8".

Larry

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Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362847 is a reply to message #362840]

Mon, 15 March 2021 23:18

Harry

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Larry; I have 6 Eagle alloys that I'm not using. Two are brand new with lugs nuts.
Four a slightly used with lug nuts but they are metric.
I'm in Cobble Hill just south of Duncan. I would now take $200 CDN for each wheel.
I think they are $200 US now.
email jarvis210@shaw.ca

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Re: Wheel Nuts [message #362852 is a reply to message #362847]

Tue, 16 March 2021 02:16

boybach

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Your Eagle alloys are 16.5's, right? I just bought 7 new 16" tires so I think I'll stick with the steelies for now.
Thanks though

Larry

[Updated on: Tue, 16 March 2021 02:17]

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