| [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361457] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 14:27  |
Hanson Email
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We used to take our '73 Glacier 23' skiing a bunch in the Sierras when the
kids were young. I took advantage of night skiing rates as there were 4 of
us to pay for so normally, left the resort about 9pm and after the evening
snow fall. Most of the time, I could not get out of the parking lot with
chains, going forward. Solution?, back out.
Several resorts would allow overnight parking but to be somewhat level, we
would have to move to remote parts of the parking lot. Early in the AM,
before the crowds arrived, we would move up close to the ski lifts. With a
little ice, the GMC would not go anywhere. Solution: back up. GMC's push a
LOT better than they pull.
JWID
Dean Hanson
Fremont, Ca
73 Painted Desert
75 Avion
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361460 is a reply to message #361457] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 14:38  |
lqqkatjon
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after having a many conversation with a GMC owner who hit 50 states this year, 48 of those in a 23' GMC, I am also a believer that a 23' probably is a entirely different animal on the snow then a 26'. from my conversations a 23' is a different animal when traction is concerned just without snow.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361461 is a reply to message #361460] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 15:03 |
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lqqkatjon wrote on Mon, 04 January 2021 14:38after having a many conversation with a GMC owner who hit 50 states this year, 48 of those in a 23' GMC, I am also a believer that a 23' probably is a entirely different animal on the snow then a 26'. from my conversations a 23' is a different animal when traction is concerned just without snow.
Different animal- better or worse? I assume better. i have only moved mine a few times across wet grass and mud where my 2wd truck has trouble, and it did very well.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361462 is a reply to message #361460] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 15:04 |
James Hupy
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As someone who has been stuck twice requiring assistance both times with a
26' on wet grass, I know better than to venture onto snow and ice with it.
But, Alex Birch's grandson Greg takes his coach skiing in the Washington
Cascades frequently. He outfits it with winter traction tires and chains.
So, some preparation apparently is in order. I would otherwise use my
Chevrolet trailblazer 4 x 4. Much better vehicle for the job.
Jim Hupy
Salem,Oregon
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 12:39 PM Jon Roche via Gmclist
wrote:
> after having a many conversation with a GMC owner who hit 50 states this
> year, 48 of those in a 23' GMC, I am also a believer that a 23' probably
> is
> a entirely different animal on the snow then a 26'. from my
> conversations a 23' is a different animal when traction is concerned just
> without snow.
>
>
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> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361463 is a reply to message #361461] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 15:40 |
lqqkatjon
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my understanding is 23' has much better traction, not to mention the maneuverability. If you just think of the wheelbase differences, there is not nearly as much weight difference between front and rear.
https://www.gmcmotorhome.com/faq/dimensions.html
just the rear overhang has to make a difference in handling.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361465 is a reply to message #361457] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 16:03 |
NextGenGMC
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Since 23' has much shorter wheelbase, does it side "flex" the bogey arms more than a 26' would do when you make a sharp turn? Just curious...
Vadim Jitkov
'76 Glenbrook 26'
Pullman, WA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361487 is a reply to message #361457] |
Tue, 05 January 2021 07:54 |
tgeiger
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Gotcha, ice is bad but yes agreed one would never know what road conditions they would encounter on the roads. I’ve had this coach since 2000 and have driven it in the snow that one time and never done that since. I’ve also gotten stuck in soft muddy grass and had myself towed out of that. And there was the drive back from NC when I bought it. When I got close to KC the weather got nasty suddenly, freezing rain and sleet. Highway was not looking good. I immediately pulled off the highway in a small town and parked it in a Hardee’s parking lot and left it there for a few days with their permission. Went on home with my trailing car my friend drove behind me all the way back from NC. Came back a few days later when roads were clear. Anyhow appreciate the input guys.
TG
Tom Geiger
76 Eleganza II
KCMO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361488 is a reply to message #361487] |
Tue, 05 January 2021 08:07 |
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I have only been stuck on sand. Decided to take the 75 Palm Beach to N Padre Island seashore. Completely undeveloped LONG sand path along the shore. I think that if I had been smart and laid down some 3/4" plywood boards, maybe 4' x 24", I could have gotten out without help. As it is, there is enough traffic that someone, sometime, will come by with a 1 ton dually to extricate you. The old GMC MH Marketplace magazine would routinely have articles on devices that would help a GMC out of such a jamb. As I recall, those stories were mostly centered around getting stuck in sand. I have never cancelled a trip because of snow, but I would not want to climb up a mountain highway in my GMC in a blizzard.
Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361520 is a reply to message #361457] |
Wed, 06 January 2021 16:27 |
jhbridges
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I grew up driving Alabama red mud roads in the wet, after which we migrated to Tulsa for four years of dreadful winters. Red mud is slicker, but warmer. I wouldn't run a GMC on either one.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361521 is a reply to message #361457] |
Wed, 06 January 2021 18:26 |
JohnL455
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I took a 76 E2 to a ski resort and had about 6” snow in the parking lot. Deeper snow is better for traction than ice. With the THM you can rock it out and get moving with heavy throttle, but that’s at the expense of having usable steering. I got out and up from the lot, but the 2 lanes are pretty scary.when slick.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Snow or nosnow driving [message #361540 is a reply to message #361535] |
Fri, 08 January 2021 11:47 |
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Just noting that this is in early development and not ready for prime time.
I have seen other systems that can be adapted to the Gmc but all at great cost.
Going in snow is one thing but more important in stopping.
Better jest to stay home in the snow if you can.
tgeiger wrote on Fri, 08 January 2021 07:19Understanding handling of the coach on slick services is a whole different issue. Just talking theory here....more for those situation you get stuck. But when you apply a practical thought to the situation maybe a large tonnage winch would be more cost effective, but I did find this product available. Wonder if something along this line could be done?
https://www.core77.com/posts/81061/Turn-Your-Two-Wheel-Drive-Car-into-Four-Wheel-Drive-by-Adding-Hubless-Orbis-Electric-Wheels.
Just athought,
TG
1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
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