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What's it like out there? [message #360562] Sun, 06 December 2020 07:56 Go to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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I just watched a piece on Morning News entitled "A life Well Lived". Piece talked about RV sales up 33% as people all over are getting a break from the cabin fever by camping...seeing this great country, kids and all through the windshield of their camper. We usually leave for the south between Christmas and New Year and not returning to Wisconsin until late April. So, what's it like out there? Are the campgrounds full? Am I gonna be able to live this dream in the great outdoors....or wait till next year?

Larry Smile
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Menomonie, WI.
Re: What's it like out there? [message #360564 is a reply to message #360562] Sun, 06 December 2020 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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Last april when we realized out summer trip to Ethiopia was not going to happen we bought a Truck and a hybrid camper (the GMC had not come into the picture at that point)

Today The Hybrid would easily fetch twice what we paid for it, we were just ahead of the buying curve.

The RV forums are filled with newbies and the veterans sometime refer to them as "COVID campers"

Remote learning and telework has allowed lots of families to travel around during the school year.

But to answer your question, i don't think you'll have trouble finding a spot if the campgrounds are open.

While there are more new people exploring a lot of the regulars are staying home.

FOr many people "camping" means going to a resort town and enjoying the beaches and restaurants and entertainment. Those people are not coming out, replaced to some degree by true campers and vagabonds.

At the height of summer we were able to get reservations at premier campgrounds.







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Re: What's it like out there? [message #360565 is a reply to message #360562] Sun, 06 December 2020 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kerry is currently offline  Kerry   United States
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Larry, I understand that campgrounds are filling up or are already full. We're heading to Webster Florida for 3 months but have had reservations for a year. From what my motorhome friends are telling me there are still spots available around the state but I would make reservations as soon as you can.

At 'our' campground, the activities are cut way back. There used to be a huge pot luck buffet every friday night, game nights, exercise classes, seminars, etc, etc. Most everything is cancelled. Folks socialize but at a distance...masks and hand sanitizer.

I don't think things will be much different for us in the coach at the Campground that it is at home. Trips to the store wearing a mask, hanging around the 'house', take out food, hand sanitizer. The difference is that we'll be basically quarantining with friends. Once we're over the 7 day period, I'm probably going to feel pretty good about sitting down with friends that are as 'safe' as we are.


Kerry
Re: What's it like out there? [message #360569 is a reply to message #360562] Sun, 06 December 2020 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tilerpep is currently offline  Tilerpep   United States
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my experience this fall has been weekends are nearly all booked at non-private campgrounds. For example - we went to Lake Anna State park with friends for Thanksgiving. By three weeks before, all the electric sites were booked for Friday and Saturday nights. That would never happen pre-covid. We went Wednesday to Friday. Once there, we could have had our choice of tent sites with no hookups for the weekend. I'm set up to boondock a few days.

Looked at my South Carolina favorite park this week - it will show all availability for two months. Weekends full, decent availability Monday to Friday. For December, I see that as different. Just what I'm seeing...

Tyler


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Re: What's it like out there? [message #360592 is a reply to message #360562] Mon, 07 December 2020 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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They claim they are going to run out of campsites compared with number of rv’s being made. I see the cost of campsites are going up. Hotels
Too.

But we have one up as gmc is small, contained. We dont need 50 amps and 50’ of pavement. We have more options.

Like other had said even peak MN. Weekdays there are sites. Weekends can be tougher.


One thing I think is going to happen is a big crash. They over finance. And they are over priced for what they are and how
They might hold value. People are also overbuying their budgets and things like storage and other expenses are not in their mindset.

I see a big repo market coming i. Next few years then eventually people will still owe on a camper
They cant use because it needs repairs they cant afford,
Do or get parts for.

You cant just bring a camper
To a scrap yard either when it is junk.

There are fields of busted campers in the nd oil
Fields. But now this is all over the country.



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Re: What's it like out there? [message #360597 is a reply to message #360592] Mon, 07 December 2020 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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On our big Sept. trip, we found that a lot of campgrounds were pretty full. On one occasion (Grand Tetons) we had to go to our second choice because the first was full. On another (Goblin Valley, UT. we had to camp outside the park in a dispersed camping area. In 3-1/2 weeks, we only were plugged in two days (at the Fairgrounds in Rapid City). Some places we were luck to get a space, but there were always alternatives. Lots of free or low cost camping at national parks/forest land, state parks BLM land, etc.

I say go for it. You may face some restrictions in some parts of the west coast states, but probably very few in the other western states. Our travel plans have been pretty much unchanged this whole past year.


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Re: What's it like out there? [message #360599 is a reply to message #360592] Mon, 07 December 2020 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   Canada
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lqqkatjon wrote on Mon, 07 December 2020 09:03
They claim they are going to run out of campsites compared with number of rv’s being made. I see the cost of campsites are going up. Hotels Too.
But we have one up as gmc is small, contained. We dont need 50 amps and 50’ of pavement. We have more options.
Like other had said even peak MN. Weekdays there are sites. Weekends can be tougher.
One thing I think is going to happen is a big crash. They over finance. And they are over priced for what they are and how they might hold value. People are also overbuying their budgets and things like storage and other expenses are not in their mindset.
I see a big repo market coming i. Next few years then eventually people will still owe on a camper they cant use because it needs repairs they cant afford,
to do or get parts for.
You cant just bring a camper to a scrap yard either when it is junk.
There are fields of busted campers in the nd oil fields. But now this is all over the country.
Jon,

Most of them have options too, but as you say, when they get huge the options get small. Many don't even know how to really dry camp, let alone actually boondock. We have coaches that were built for this. I think we will be maintaining our normal 1 c(r)amp ground a season that is usual for us.

Fear that you are correct. On the open boards, there are many that bought this year and many of those have little or no idea how to care for the unit. They may keep it a couple more years and then try to unload it. They will take a beating for doing this.

I don't see how they can win.
Either they will not be able to afford fuel to use it or to make the payments and keep it, or they will be so busy working that they won't have time for it.
Either way, they will show up on the resale, repo or auction block.

But, that way the campground crowding will slack off. This may cause a small backlash that won't matter to us at all.

Matt


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Re: What's it like out there? [message #360601 is a reply to message #360599] Mon, 07 December 2020 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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With the physical size of the GMC, you should have no problem. A lot of Florida State Parks have smaller sites that the big rigs cannot use. And, there are many parks off the Winter Tourist scene that are not full. We had absolutely no problem getting into a commercial RV park, using Passport America today.
Down the GA-FL Parkway, there were plenty of RV parks that were not looking like they were full. The park we are in right now has empty slots. But, the place is full of park models, a very growing trend in Florida.
If you can be flexible, come on down.
Tom, in Ocala today.


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Re: What's it like out there? [message #360618 is a reply to message #360562] Tue, 08 December 2020 14:38 Go to previous message
Scott Nutter is currently offline  Scott Nutter   United States
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Hi Larry,
Texas is open(but avoid El Paso), come on down! Live music, sit down BBQ restaurants, and great breweries! Texans are a hearty breed, if they get the COVID they self medicate with a few margaritas and sweat out the virus. Normally are cured within a few hours..
In fact, I am in San Diego now picking up my mom to bring her out to houston for the holidays. Sitting locked up in her house is not the healthiest for the mental health.
Have fun where ever you guys end up at!
Scott.


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