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Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360126] Sun, 15 November 2020 14:27 Go to next message
aaronanalog is currently offline  aaronanalog   United States
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In Mammoth springs ar. Pouring out trans fluid. May have snapped the chain trying to get off the road. Need help if anyone is near by. Could use a jack and a ride to the parts store to try to plug the hole or remove it and hammer it back out then get it welded up tomorrow.
Re: [GMCnet] Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360131 is a reply to message #360126] Sun, 15 November 2020 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One thing to avoid if at all possible. Straddling anything lying in the
center of your travel lane. That tranny pan is vulnerable. I guess you
found that out the hard way. I hope you didn't toast your transmission
running it low on fluid. Should be a replacement pan in the hands of
another GMCER in your area. Hope you can make the connections you need.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 12:28 PM Aaron Fogg via Gmclist <
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> In Mammoth springs ar. Pouring out trans fluid. May have snapped the chain
> trying to get off the road. Need help if anyone is near by. Could use a
> jack and a ride to the parts store to try to plug the hole or remove it
> and hammer it back out then get it welded up tomorrow.
>
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Re: Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360136 is a reply to message #360126] Sun, 15 November 2020 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   Canada
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Arron,

There are few in easy striking distance. Your are closer to Springfield Mo than much else. Black list has a number there.

If you have to load up the big guns, Unique Automotive is in North Little Rock, but that is 150 miles from you. They are good people.

Be sure to tell us about it when you are set.

Best of luck

Matt


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Re: Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360137 is a reply to message #360126] Sun, 15 November 2020 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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I have a good usable pan that I could ship out to you. Give me and address to send it to and it is yours. I'm from NW Wisconsin.

Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360161 is a reply to message #360131] Mon, 16 November 2020 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NextGenGMC is currently offline  NextGenGMC   United States
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James Hupy wrote on Sun, 15 November 2020 14:30
One thing to avoid if at all possible. Straddling anything lying in the
center of your travel lane. That tranny pan is vulnerable. I guess you
found that out the hard way. I hope you didn't toast your transmission
running it low on fluid. Should be a replacement pan in the hands of
another GMCER in your area. Hope you can make the connections you need.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
Good advice. On my 4x4 I have a rock guard plate covering the bottom of the engine and transmission to protect them from damage when on rough trails. Would it be helpful to make something like this for our GMCs? Or do you think it will only increase heat holding capacity (reduce air flow and cooling) of the engine compartment and thus be more of a detriment?


Vadim Jitkov '76 Glenbrook 26' Pullman, WA
Re: Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360162 is a reply to message #360126] Mon, 16 November 2020 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LNelson is currently offline  LNelson   United States
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Any update? I have a pan. I am two hours from you. Do you have a toad? On a short leash so let me know. Larry Nelson 417 849 2997.

Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
Re: Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360163 is a reply to message #360126] Mon, 16 November 2020 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You are also going to need a gasket, probably a filter, and 2 or 3 gallons of trans fluid.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360165 is a reply to message #360163] Mon, 16 November 2020 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So assuming by (reading some of this thread) that the lesson is to never hit a bump straight on?

Thinking that whenever possible one should raise the coach and drive to either side of the bump- whichever the situation allows?



On Nov 16, 2020, at 4:18 PM, Ken Burton via Gmclist wrote:

You are also going to need a gasket, probably a filter, and 2 or 3 gallons of trans fluid.
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Re: [GMCnet] Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360171 is a reply to message #360161] Tue, 17 November 2020 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NextGenGMC wrote on Mon, 16 November 2020 16:38
Good advice. On my 4x4 I have a rock guard plate covering the bottom of the engine and transmission to protect them from damage when on rough trails. Would it be helpful to make something like this for our GMCs? Or do you think it will only increase heat holding capacity (reduce air flow and cooling) of the engine compartment and thus be more of a detriment?
Vadim,

Chaumière is an elder lady and at her age there is strike damage to both the transmission pan and both fuel tanks. She used to go to Mexico a lot and I do not know where or how.

While strike damage should always be a concern, I don't know where you could mount such a guard on a TZE. I would not worry about the possible air flow cooling loss as both the engine and the transmission have adequate coolers in the system. If one were concerned, I would think that a Regusa pan might be a good answer.

One of my Jeeps had a heavy plate brazed to the bottom of the engine pan and it caused me plenty of greif, but I never had to worry about the oil pan.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360175 is a reply to message #360171] Tue, 17 November 2020 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I consider Matt's Ragusa pan advice excellent. Last summer (2019), before
the Wuhan Virus hit us, I came around a curve and down a hill in N. GA to
find a railroad track across the road. Too close to react, I saw what the
tracks, rather than having gentle approaches, stood about 4" above the road
surface. When the front wheels hit the first track I could feel the front
end leave the ground. I never felt the 2nd track, but I did feel and hear
something strike the pavement when we landed. When the shoulder permitted
me to stop, a mile or two down the road, I got out and checked the front
end. There was no obvious damage, but the fins on the bottom of the Ragusa
pan were unusually shiny. Nothing was running out of the engine.

Back home on the service rack I took a better look at everything. There
seemed to be no damage to the tires nor the Manny One-Ton front
suspension. But the fins on the transmission pan were almost obliterated
at the rear of the pan -- scraped off by the highway asphalt when the GMC
landed after its aborted takeoff! But no other obvious damage -- it's
still leaking only at the flange, as it always has. Perhaps that
lubrication on the bottom helped it survive the crash?

Ken H.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 9:41 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
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> NextGenGMC wrote on Mon, 16 November 2020 16:38
>> Good advice. On my 4x4 I have a rock guard plate covering the bottom of
> the engine and transmission to protect them from damage when on rough
>> trails. Would it be helpful to make something like this for our GMCs?
> Or do you think it will only increase heat holding capacity (reduce air flow
>> and cooling) of the engine compartment and thus be more of a detriment?
>
> Vadim,
>
> Chaumière is an elder lady and at her age there is strike damage to both
> the transmission pan and both fuel tanks. She used to go to Mexico a lot
> and I do not know where or how.
>
> While strike damage should always be a concern, I don't know where you
> could mount such a guard on a TZE. I would not worry about the possible air
> flow cooling loss as both the engine and the transmission have adequate
> coolers in the system. If one were concerned, I would think that a Regusa
> pan
> might be a good answer.
>
> One of my Jeeps had a heavy plate brazed to the bottom of the engine pan
> and it caused me plenty of greif, but I never had to worry about the oil
> pan.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL,
> GMCES
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> Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360183 is a reply to message #360175] Tue, 17 November 2020 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 17 November 2020 07:06
I consider Matt's Ragusa pan advice excellent. Last summer (2019), before
the Wuhan Virus hit us, I came around a curve and down a hill in N. GA to
find a railroad track across the road. Too close to react, I saw what the
tracks, rather than having gentle approaches, stood about 4" above the road
surface. When the front wheels hit the first track I could feel the front
end leave the ground. I never felt the 2nd track, but I did feel and hear
something strike the pavement when we landed. When the shoulder permitted
me to stop, a mile or two down the road, I got out and checked the front
end. There was no obvious damage, but the fins on the bottom of the Ragusa
pan were unusually shiny. Nothing was running out of the engine.

Back home on the service rack I took a better look at everything. There
seemed to be no damage to the tires nor the Manny One-Ton front
suspension. But the fins on the transmission pan were almost obliterated
at the rear of the pan -- scraped off by the highway asphalt when the GMC
landed after its aborted takeoff! But no other obvious damage -- it's
still leaking only at the flange, as it always has. Perhaps that
lubrication on the bottom helped it survive the crash?

Ken H.

Ken, have you considered writing as a hobby? I bet you could put together a collection of stories for all ages. The way you describe things make my ribs ache from laughing. GMC's aborted takeoff - very clear visual on that one Laughing


Vadim Jitkov '76 Glenbrook 26' Pullman, WA
Re: [GMCnet] Hole in my transmission pan!!!! Broke down [message #360185 is a reply to message #360183] Tue, 17 November 2020 14:35 Go to previous message
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Thanks for your comments, Vadim. Glad you enjoyed the writeup.

With a USAF flying career behind me, I could think of no more apt
description than "crash landing" during an "aborted takeoff" for we
experienced. :-)

Ken H.


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 3:13 PM Vadim Jitkov via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 17 November 2020 07:06
>> I consider Matt's Ragusa pan advice excellent. Last summer (2019),
> before
>> the Wuhan Virus hit us, I came around a curve and down a hill in N. GA to
>> find a railroad track across the road. Too close to react, I saw what
> the
>> tracks, rather than having gentle approaches, stood about 4" above the
> road
>> surface. When the front wheels hit the first track I could feel the
> front
>> end leave the ground. I never felt the 2nd track, but I did feel and
> hear
>> something strike the pavement when we landed. When the shoulder
> permitted
>> me to stop, a mile or two down the road, I got out and checked the front
>> end. There was no obvious damage, but the fins on the bottom of the
> Ragusa
>> pan were unusually shiny. Nothing was running out of the engine.
>>
>> Back home on the service rack I took a better look at everything. There
>> seemed to be no damage to the tires nor the Manny One-Ton front
>> suspension. But the fins on the transmission pan were almost obliterated
>> at the rear of the pan -- scraped off by the highway asphalt when the GMC
>> landed after its aborted takeoff! But no other obvious damage -- it's
>> still leaking only at the flange, as it always has. Perhaps that
>> lubrication on the bottom helped it survive the crash?
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> Ken, have you considered writing as a hobby? I bet you could put together
> a collection of stories for all ages. The way you describe things make my
> ribs ache from laughing. GMC's aborted takeoff - very clear visual on that
> one :lol:
> --
> Vadim Jitkov
> '76 Glenbrook 26'
> Pullman, WA
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