wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]Your coach would never pass the required MOT inspection to get it legally licensed and driveable.

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
The biggest flag would be the Xed out VIN, which would require a legal document to explain when and why it was altered.

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
The next flag would be the '73 numbers not matching the '76 title.

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
Upon presenting your coach for inspection here, it would be seized by the law officials

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
and you would have a big fight to get it back. Any time or money you have invested into the coach might be lost if it was determined that the coach was indeed stolen and the affected insurance company wanted to take back the coach.

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
Even if it was not stolen, the red tape required to clear the title due to the questionable VIN alteration would be a major PITA.

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
I would assume that Quebec is not the only region of NA where there is a low tolerance for these sorts of VIN anomalies. I do know that even if you are just passing through Quebec as a tourist. If you get stopped by an overly curious cop that notices something unusual with your vehicle ID, there is a high risk of having it seized and submitted for investigation. You would have no legal recourse for any incurred expenses due to the inconvenience. The actual likelihood of this happening is very low, but it is possible.

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
For the above reasons, I would have only considered the coach as a parts vehicle. I would have never considered investing a red cent into rebuilding it for road service.

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
For someone who is overly cautious about sharing their identity, you are much less concerned about the risks surrounding a questionable VIN that will raise flags with any MOT/DOT inspector. You have a lot of faith to think they will look the other way. Hopefully you are well prepared with documented facts to support your efforts.

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
If your coach did indeed leave the factory with an altered VIN, I would think that GM would have issued a document explaining/justifying the anomaly. I as the original purchasing customer would want such a document as proof that I am in the clear should the issue be disputed later on.

wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
I am extremely interested in your progress regarding these issues. I've had several close friends here in Quebec that were victims of VIN fraud. I've seen how the VINs were altered on their vehicles, and yours would a sloppy example in comparision.

Wishing you the best success with your coach.

Hello!

I have found hidden factory made vin stamps in couple of our USA cars and trucks.

B-body Roadmaster wagon has one in upside of frame, 80´s Camaro had one in firewall under heater and one in trunk area, full size Jeep had one in rear of frame.

Haven´t lookin for it in our coach yet, but ain´t there any in GMC´s frame?

Jake

As for me and my house, I'm sailing away...
Get this clutter off my IPad..
Tooooo some, rules are more important than good ideas..
Anchors away...

...kicking around some ideas.. a rear sub-frame extension made to support a rather large aluminum box that fits between the tail lights and up to just below the rear window. not sure what type of lid or doors but want move the propane into there and have lots more of storage space. ...

There's laws about them sort of thing...


No, I'm not an attorney but I did sleep with one last night.

JP

1gmcmh wrote on Mon, 21 December 2015 16:47

...kicking around some ideas.. a rear sub-frame extension made to support a rather large aluminum box that fits between the tail lights and up to just below the rear window. not sure what type of lid or doors but want move the propane into there and have lots more of storage space. ...

I took one off and threw the support stuff away, it was so ugly. I took the box apart for the metal. It was galvanized steel, not aluminum.

We put a couple of Mitsubishi split systems in some temp studios a while back. In that service they worked well, hooking the precharged lines wasn't a problem. They might of spit a gram or two of refrigerant out at connecting, but held up well thereafter. I wouldn't use that kind of system in a coach for several reasons. They're relatively heavy. They're bulky, both outside unit and the evaporator. In a space limited environment (GMC) they take too much room. They aren't as tolerant of poor power as the RV units (Take a look inside one - there are several tricks played to make it tolerate sagging or blooming voltage without damage. There are also some you can't see.) They won't be as tolerant of vibration either. Their benefit is, they're quiet. They're probably a bit more efficient than the RV units, but that's not really a concern in RV use. My thought is, the time and effort would be better spent ducting one ot two of the roof mount units, which ought to shut it up considerably - noise being the only real drawback to them. A bit of thought and finagling should produce ductwork which fits in the ceiling of a GMC.. or at least is very wide and not greatly deep.

These coaches spread with only the weight of the roof itself over time. Increase that, they will spread more. With the walls out, I can see where one might take either of two approaches. Some curved stanchions in the walls - I'd do three to a side - could be carried through the floor directly to the coach frame. Alternatively, careful placement would allow straight ones to run up through the cabinetry at the wall. Put about a 4x4 inch block on top bandsawed or milled to match the roof curve. Then on the outside do the same with your 'patio' supports, and through - bolt these pads. Now you've got the load carried through to the frame and as an added benefit, you've support holding the roof up if you crossbolt the stanchion to the roof ribs. No more spread at all at this point.

The weight of the patio is to a degree going to affect the coach's handling, the amount of affect related to the weight of the stuff and how high above the roof you raise it. It'll look cool as hell, though.

--johnny

Jp Benson wrote on Mon, 21 December 2015 18:07

There's laws about them sort of thing...


No, I'm not an attorney but I did sleep with one last night.

JP

hi JP,

if I didnt know any better, I'd probably swear by it! it does appear to have the color of law, and the possibility to even the force of law unless that presumption was properly rebutted I guess.

I think it might be some sort of code? a codified law maybe? encrypted? just glad I no longer have a need to decrypt that stuff.

I used to *think* I could read that stuff too but I cant read chinese, much less this legalese. TBH, Im not aware of any law that even requires a man to read at all.

I'll stick to common law for the most part but thanks for bringing that up, it would seem to make sense and something Ive actually thought about as well but Im certainly not authorized to interpret the codes of a legal society or agents of a foreign principle. in fact Ive found it better to not even try it.

maybe you can find the other ones that resemble law and of the correct time period about the V.I.N. plates too? that would be most interesting for the group I think.

if your sleeping partner also has a leviathan black robe, they might even under-stand what I just wrote.

magi's gonna magi straight I suppose. word