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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Refrigerators [message #60911 is a reply to message #60881] Wed, 21 October 2009 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Jim White wrote on Tue, 20 October 2009 23:16

Actually, he paints them in black, white and gray depending on brand.
Doc

Phil Swanson wrote:
> Gotta be black if he's Amish. They can't use any colors.


If you listened carefully, he uses a white primer and tries to let them sit around at least several days to see if the white shows any stains that might indicate a micro-level leak. Then he does a final coat at brand color.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Refrigerators [message #60914 is a reply to message #60911] Wed, 21 October 2009 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Matt,

Wow, I KNOW where I'm sending my Dometic Fridge if I have problems with it!

Talk about attention to detail.

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Rob Mueller
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If you listened carefully, he uses a white primer and tries to let them sit
around at least several days to see if the white shows any stains that might
indicate a micro-level leak. Then he does a final coat at brand color.

Matt

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Refrigerators [message #60923 is a reply to message #60911] Wed, 21 October 2009 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim White[1] is currently offline  Jim White[1]   United States
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Matt-
I was too busy juggling slides, watching the time and trying to record
questions to listen carefully but I thought he was rather casual in his
answer to paint color. Didn't he say he found some primer that was in
the shop and used that, then found some gray which was good for one
brand, and used black for some others. He did mention that on inventory
jobs, he would let then age a few days to look for discolorations
(yellow) but that on quick turnaround jobs that wasn't possible. Phil,
he was pretty hip for an Amish guy.
Doc
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Matt Colie wrote:
> Jim White wrote on Tue, 20 October 2009 23:16
>
>> Actually, he paints them in black, white and gray depending on brand.
>> Doc
>>
>> Phil Swanson wrote:
>>
>>> Gotta be black if he's Amish. They can't use any colors.
>>>
>
> If you listened carefully, he uses a white primer and tries to let them sit around at least several days to see if the white shows any stains that might indicate a micro-level leak. Then he does a final coat at brand color.
>
> Matt
>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Refrigerators [message #60956 is a reply to message #60689] Wed, 21 October 2009 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=stkhlm wrote on Mon, 19 October 2009 14:05]
GMCWiperMan wrote on Sun, 18 October 2009 23:13

So, what do you think, Dan, is cooling unit replacement a reasonable task
for the average GMCer to tackle?

<SNIP>

Ken,

Not Dan but I would say it is a reasonable task for average GMCer to take on. I wish we could of had taken a video of what Leon did because he had the old cooling unit out in 5-10 minutes. It really isn't that hard at all and then he gave the little tips/hints on what to watch out for when you put the new unit back in. The hardest part will be taking the refigerator in and out of GMC. In fact Leon said there are times he does it right inside the motorhome with unit laying on floor. Ususally due to the fact some units will not fit out of door, not usually our problem with GMC.

Hope that helps.


Yes it is a problem. That is how I broke my foot. I was taking it out of the GMC. The old Norcold was going to Shipshe to be repaired. It never made it there and I ended up in a cast with crutches for a couple months.

I ended up buying a new Dometic and my daughter installed it so I could make the next GMCEastern States rally.




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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Refrigerators [message #60957 is a reply to message #60595] Wed, 21 October 2009 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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GMCNUSA wrote on Sun, 18 October 2009 22:28

Ken Burton wrote on Sun, 18 October 2009 00:13

WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 17 October 2009 21:08


<snip>
Bob Stockholm and Doc White did a great job putting on this show. Seminars were excellent.

Dan


yes, Except for the last one


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I thought the last presentation was well grounded in fact. LOL


I guess that was better than a neutral response.


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Re: GMC Refrigerators [message #60965 is a reply to message #60461] Wed, 21 October 2009 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rick Williams is currently offline  Rick Williams   United States
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I have replaced cooling units in a couple of refrigerators, including the popular Dometic 2652. It is not a difficult task. It is worth doing if the frig is in good shape.
There is a solid material suspended in the liquid refrigerant that is circulated throughout the cooling unit. This solid can collect in some spots of the cooling unit and prevent flow to some or all sections. That is why sometimes the freezer works well but the frig does not. I do not know the method for cleaning out all of this old material when a cooling unit is rebuilt, but it is a very important part of the process. I would choose a rebuilder that has been doing it for a while and has a low failure rate. Google gas refrigerator cooling units and you will find many.
Leon's (fixyourfridge.com) price of $400.00 plus shipping for a two door model is a fair price.
I just spent a few minutes on the phone with Leon and asked him about his procedures. Some of it is proprietary but after talking a while, I believe he is doing an excellent job at rebuilding the cooling units. His web site describes their rebuilding process.
He made an effort for the GMC community and therefore we should consider his service.


Rick Williams
Bliss, Michigan
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Re: GMC Refrigerators [message #61076 is a reply to message #60461] Wed, 21 October 2009 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was not even planning to attend the seminar but Wally wanted to so I went. Wow, I am glad I did. This young fella knows what he is doing. As I have already mentioned, I won't be buying another new frige as long as Leon is working them over. If you are having problems with an rv frige you better call him before you do something like I did and spend 1,000 bux for a new 3 way.
Dan


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Re: GMC Refrigerators [message #61246 is a reply to message #60461] Fri, 23 October 2009 01:03 Go to previous message
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We are really happy with Leon.

Our Dometic quit working dependably on propane in Florida. When we first began to have problems with it we searched the Internet for all the new units available. None were going to be a close enough replacement dimensional fit. It looked like it was going to be a lot of work and a real pain.

We had heard of Leon through Eastern States, so on a trip back from Wisconsin where we would be going through Indiana we called Leon

We stopped in his driveway late that night. Leon let us sleep until we woke up. Our 3 way Dometic had quit working on propane, but was still working just fine on 120 volt.

Leon quickly diagnosed our Dometic 3 way, that we have been very happy with. He found a problem in the circuit board, had one in stock, and got the fridge up and going on gas in short order.

Leon also had a collection of parts fridges and we put together a couple of new looking crispers. Ours crispers had both cracked over the many years of use and kids hands.

Leon also replaced the ugly, ugly yellow original paneling on the fridge door with wood paneling. It looked so good and changed the appearance of the entire kitchen area to my eye.

We were very, very happy.

Then a year or so later we had a problem on the road and called Leon. He walked me through a diagnosis over the phone and I quickly had the problem resolved.

The fridge has been trouble free since. We really like our Dometic and we really like Leon.

When time comes for replacement or rebuild, Leon will get the fridge for rebuild.

Don & Susan Jeffers
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