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| Re: [GMCnet] I have a new job! Also, Heavy/medium truck tire age limits? (OT) [message #247798 is a reply to message #247795] |
Fri, 18 April 2014 00:21   |
Guy Lopes
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Location: Sacramento, CA
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Ken,
The 130 is very versatile and an icon in the aviation community. I love the
sound of one passing overhead (McClellan AFB Coast Guard - unknown model) as
I snap my neck trying to find that gorgeous (and 100 kt faster) P-3c! Same
engines/props. Hahaha
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
www.GMC-Guy.com
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Mueller
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:03 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I have a new job! Also, Heavy/medium truck tire age
limits? (OT)
Ken,
Propellers: Dowty R391 6-blade composite propeller, UGH! BLEECH! PHOOEY!
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
Good ol' 130's did (and do) 'most everything. :-)
Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I have a new job! Also, Heavy/medium truck tire age limits? (OT) [message #247802 is a reply to message #247798] |
Fri, 18 April 2014 02:12 |
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USAussie
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Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Guy,
The Lockheed C130 model A:
Powerplant: Allison T-56A-11
Propellers: Aero-Products 3 blade hollow steel propellers
The Lockheed / Martin C130 B thru H models:
Powerplant: Allison T56A-15 turboprops
Propeller: Hamilton Standard 4 blade 54H60-111 or -117 square tip aluminum propellers
The Lockheed / Martin C130 Model J:
Powerplant: Rolls-Royce AE 2100D3 turboprop
Propeller: Dowty R391 6 blade swept composite propellers
The Lockheed / Martin P-3:
Powerplant: Allison T56A-14 turboprop
Propellers: Hamilton Standard 4 blade 54H60-77 round tip propellers aluminum propellers
The Northrup Grumman E2 / C2 has:
Powerplant: Allison / Rolls-Royce T56A-427
Propeller: Hamilton Standard 4 blade 54460-1 round tip composite propellers
You now know MORE than you EVER wanted or NEEDED to know about the propellers on these aircraft! ;-)
Regards,
Rob
PS - Nope this is not all off the top of my head, I had to do a bit of Googling, I've been retired too long to remember all that
crap! ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Lopes
Ken,
The 130 is very versatile and an icon in the aviation community. I love the
sound of one passing overhead (McClellan AFB Coast Guard - unknown model) as
I snap my neck trying to find that gorgeous (and 100 kt faster) P-3c! Same
engines/props. Hahaha
Guy
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] I have a new job! Also, Heavy/medium truck tire age limits? (OT) [message #247805 is a reply to message #247802] |
Fri, 18 April 2014 05:34 |
Ken Henderson
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Too bad -- you still didn't quite get it right on the T56A's: the B & E
had different series than the H, IIRC. Except that not all E's had the
same: our MC-130E's had the 130H's engines -- IIRC.
Not that I really care any longer--not to mention the rest of these folks.
:-).
Ken H.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
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> The Lockheed C130 model A:
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> Powerplant: Allison T-56A-11
> Propellers: Aero-Products 3 blade hollow steel propellers
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> The Lockheed / Martin C130 B thru H models:
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> Powerplant: Allison T56A-15 turboprops
> Propeller: Hamilton Standard 4 blade 54H60-111 or -117 square tip aluminum
> propellers
> ...
> You now know MORE than you EVER wanted or NEEDED to know about the
> propellers on these aircraft! ;-)
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| Re: [GMCnet] I have a new job! Also, Heavy/medium truck tire age limits? (OT) [message #247820 is a reply to message #247790] |
Fri, 18 April 2014 10:11 |
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My son-in-law was navigator, electronic warfare officer, and fire control officer on the 130 gunships. Son spent 20 years flying USAF Hueys and Pave Lows.
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> From: hend4800@bellsouth.net
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 23:41:33 -0400
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I have a new job! Also, Heavy/medium truck tire age limits? (OT)
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> Good ol' 130's did (and do) 'most everything. :-)
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> Ken H.
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> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Charles Wood wrote:
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> > Hey Ken...
> > I did time in the 'A's & 'E's..same place
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> > The 'A's shot back and the 'E's (being black & unmarked grey) snuck in &
> > out
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> > Loved the new 'J's..
> >
> > good thing we made it back..
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| Re: [GMCnet] I have a new job! Also, Heavy/medium truck tire age limits? (OT) [message #247887 is a reply to message #247507] |
Sat, 19 April 2014 10:56 |
JohnL455
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Bob I agree with the above except your last sentence. It has everything to do with whether it is used for commercial or not. I have a B CDL air-brake endorsement. Saddly the newer CDL laws didn't simplify things. If you rent an under 16k truck to move your household you don't need a CDL but probably do need to stop at the chicken coops. That is up to the coop guys to decide what All Trucks means at that hour. Same truck used for commerce needs a CDL of at least that lower weight class along with log books and pre trip inspection records. A medical card must also be carried. Random drug test records must be kept on file at the home terminal in each driver folder subject to inspection with no notice. Log books must be kept if your daily route takes you more than 100 miles from your home terminal. That can be tough to prove on traffic stop so best to keep them and note "local multiple stops" in the notes. If you were to use your GMC to shuttle people in a for hire situation you would need a CDL with livery endorsement. Log and medical and drug rules apply. I sat through some Paclease seminars with State inspectors and those are some of the key points I took away. Many a Ryder truck has been shut down on the spot when they found 2 non CDL roadies up front and band equipment in back (commercial) and the truck will not move until a current CDL driver can be brought in to move it. Don't haul anything than can be mistaken for commercial without some documentation with your under 16k non CDL truck.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] I have a new job! Also, Heavy/medium truck tire age limits? (OT) [message #247888 is a reply to message #247887] |
Sat, 19 April 2014 11:17 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| JohnL455 wrote on Sat, 19 April 2014 09:56 |
Bob I agree with the above except your last sentence. It has everything to do with whether it is used for commercial or not. I have a B CDL air-brake endorsement. Saddly the newer CDL laws didn't simplify things. If you rent an under 16k truck to move your household you don't need a CDL but probably do need to stop at the chicken coops. That is up to the coop guys to decide what All Trucks means at that hour. Same truck used for commerce needs a CDL of at least that lower weight class along with log books and pre trip inspection records. A medical card must also be carried. Random drug test records must be kept on file at the home terminal in each driver folder subject to inspection with no notice. Log books must be kept if your daily route takes you more than 100 miles from your home terminal. That can be tough to prove on traffic stop so best to keep them and note "local multiple stops" in the notes. If you were to use your GMC to shuttle people in a for hire situation you would need a CDL with livery endorsement. Log and medical and drug rules apply. I sat through some Paclease seminars with State inspectors and those are some of the key points I took away. Many a Ryder truck has been shut down on the spot when they found 2 non CDL roadies up front and band equipment in back (commercial) and the truck will not move until a current CDL driver can be brought in to move it. Don't haul anything than can be mistaken for commercial without some documentation with your under 16k non CDL truck.
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John, I can't recall what I wrote but I think we are on the same page. If you drive a truck for ocassional moving of household goods, you do not need a CDL. In our case, when a customer rents our trucks, they do not fall under any FMCSA rules including CDL's and whether you need to stop at weigh stations. If our own employees use the same truck even for repair or shuttling purposes, they fall under FMCSA requirements and may need a CDL. The CDL requirements were recently re-written and are extremely confusing.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] I have a new job! Also, Heavy/medium truck tire age limits? (OT) [message #247952 is a reply to message #247507] |
Sun, 20 April 2014 10:28 |
kingd
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Someone mentioned the Caribou, built by DeHaviland now Bombardier. The choolbus company I work for rents space on what was formerly the Downsview Canadian Air Force base The Bmbardier factories are on the same site. Bombardier own theproperty their buidings are on and the airfield. I get to see their Q400 shuttle almost every day and lots of brand new customer Qs and pure jets.Haven't seen the new CS series jet,yet. Neat to see the latest turbo prop paasenger planes and the latest small less than 150 seat jets.
My daily aircraft "fix". The unpainted planes look like they need a trip to Jim Bounds paint booth (GMC content)
DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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