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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60191 is a reply to message #60165] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 11:26   |
Tin Gerbil
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Ken;
The reason for using the 727 is cost. Around here you can find them
from free to $20. The 747's start at $100 and go up, if you can find
them in Craigslist. The recyclers want up to $250 for a 747. My
thinking is with the EBL the tables are in it, so the limited functions
of a stock 727 are not a drawback.
I will go to Dynamic's website and read the info again. IIRC the 727 is
in their list of usable ECM'S.
I guess comfort at temperature is an individual feeling. Having worked
in the resource industries most of my life, I'm comfortable outside at
50+. At 40, in the rain, I'm not comfortable unless I have a large
salmon on the end of the stick. Inside, sitting still in a "T" shirt, I
like 72. It is 50 climbing to 60 here today in the Cold White North, so
I will go cut some more trees down.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/CABC0195
Gordon
Ken Henderson wrote:
> I'm ALWAYS trying to stay warm. Compared to what you NOBs consider
> warm. 500 W heater!? Might as well leave the refrigerator door open
> and depend on its light to keep you warm. How about two 1500 Watters
> when the temperature gets below 50*F? Don't even want to think about it
> being colder than that outside. (Low 40's forecast here this weekend.)
>
> I used the bubble wrap in the SOB, even with its thermopane windows.
> Don't in the GMC, but winter's the only time we use the cockpit
> curtain. Even before the new dash air, we were cool enough in the
> cockpit with the curtain open, but let it get cool outside & we close
> the cockpit off from where I live.
>
> There was nothing special about my Howell EFI until I installed the
> EBL. All of the components are what they sent in the kit. The EBL
> worked great again on the 50 mile drive home from the rally. Thus far,
> I know very little about it other than that -- I haven't yet read all
> the documentation that's on the web site.
>
> Why would you use the ...727 rather than the ...747? Are the tables the
> same or would you be on your own developing those for the GMC?
>
> Ken H.
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| Re: Drapes for the cockpit [message #60526 is a reply to message #60026] |
Sun, 18 October 2009 10:21 |
kwharland
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FWIW, I have a full set of curtains and tracks that need a new home...cheap! I would like to keep the front curtain but could be persuaded to let it go too. They are virtually new, well made and attractive but because they all part in the middle and are made of nice thick material, they don't open as far as we would prefer. We are looking for an excuse to go to shades!
1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60531 is a reply to message #60526] |
Sun, 18 October 2009 10:58 |
Dennis S
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Ken
What color?
Dennis
73 GMC
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 18, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Ken Harland <kwharland@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
>
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> FWIW, I have a full set of curtains and tracks that need a new
> home...cheap! I would like to keep the front curtain but could be
> persuaded to let it go too. They are virtually new, well made and
> attractive but because they all part in the middle and are made of
> nice thick material, they don't open as far as we would prefer. We
> are looking for an excuse to go to shades!
> --
> 1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60611 is a reply to message #60146] |
Sun, 18 October 2009 23:32 |
Kosier
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Yes, I'm interested in the Sun Training Demonstrator that you
have.
You sent me pictures of it when you acquired it and I immediately
had the hots for it, but under the circumstances, I couldn't
possibly
have asked for more.
I think we'll probably be making a trip to Atlanta at Christmas
or
even earlier. Family situation.
Jeez, I hope getting that piece means I have to die. I'm not
ready!
Gary -past my bedtime-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit
> Yeah, I forgot to mention the better heat retention with drapes
> on the
> dash -- and that they can be as well insulated as you like. Oh
> well,
> folks are going to learn their own lessons anyway.
>
> Did I ever tell you about the "other" Sun machine I've got?
> Might have
> been keeping it a secret so you wouldn't take it away from me.
> Now I
> might just let you -- if you'll come get it. :-)
>
> It's really a training device: It has a semi-permanently
> mounted
> distributor, a coil, and 8 spark plugs. It has vacuum and
> speed
> controls as well as a potentiometer for introducing additional
> resistance in the condenser circuit (I think). In other words,
> it has
> all of the essential elements of a Sun Diagnostics Machine
> except for a
> quick-change mechanism for the distributor and a built in
> timing
> device. I gave it to Larry Wills and Dan Hudson a few years
> ago, then
> they both died and I inherited it back. Especially now that
> I'm about
> to go to electronic ignition control it's very unlikely that
> I'll ever
> do anything with it except try to find a corner to hide it in.
> You're
> welcome to it if you want it for your collection. It came from
> the same
> source as the other one.
>
> Ken
>
> Kosier wrote:
>> Ken,
>>
>> We bought the Guske blinds and I installed them(yes, we had to
>> cut them off)
>> My wife didn't like them and told me to put the original
>> tracks
>> back in and
>> she would make new curtains. I did and she did. Bobby Moore
>> saw
>> them
>> and liked them and talked her into making him a set. BUT,
>> don't
>> ask!!
>> I realize you don't go where it gets cold, but it helps to be
>> able to lay the
>> bottom of the curtains up on the dash and not lose a lot of
>> heat
>> out through
>> the windshield. Next time we come south, I'll show them to
>> you.
>> I've got a couple of further mods I'd like to make, but I
>> suppose
>> I'll have
>> to do that myself.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77EII & 77PB
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ken Henderson" <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
>> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit
>>
>>
>>
>>> Guske's pleated blinds are very nicely made and are what
>>> we've
>>> always
>>> had in the GMC -- and its predecessor new SOB. But there are
>>> some
>>> shortcomings which may yet cause me to replace them with
>>> drapes -- after
>>>
>>>> 10 years:
>>>>
>>> 1. A method must be devised to keep the blinds in the stowed
>>> position
>>> (they probably included tie-backs but I made my own from
>>> Lexan).
>>>
>>> 2. As delivered, the Guske blinds were too long for my
>>> cockpit -- they
>>> would not clear the seating surface of the seats and would
>>> not
>>> pass
>>> between the driver's seat and the steering wheel. I have
>>> used
>>> two
>>> solutions for that problem:
>>>
>>> A. I cut the blinds about 3" shorter so they'd clear the
>>> seating
>>> surfaces. Don't laugh when I tell you how: I clamped the
>>> folded blinds
>>> between 1"x2" boards, turned the blade backward on my table
>>> saw, and
>>> sawed off the 3". Perfect results. (Be sure to clean the
>>> table VERY
>>> thoroughly before wiping it with the folded blinds.)
>>>
>>> B. Later, I added a Grant Security 2000 system to the
>>> steering
>>> wheel, making it easily removable so the blind can hang
>>> straight down.
>>>
>>> 3. Some care is needed in opening and closing the blinds to
>>> keep the
>>> rigid leader handle from becoming unhooked from its hanger.
>>>
>>> 4. In my experience, it's inevitable that the adhesive on
>>> the
>>> Velcro,
>>> which secures the two handles together when the blinds are
>>> closed, will
>>> dry out and require replacement.
>>>
>>> 5. The pleats in the blinds eventually become "floppy" and
>>> do
>>> not
>>> naturally fold properly by themselves -- one must bunch them
>>> up
>>> by hand
>>> when stowing the blind.
>>>
>>> 6. You can't just throw dusty blinds into the washing
>>> machine
>>> to clean
>>> them.
>>>
>>> 7. Finally, and most annoying, because of the steep angle of
>>> the GMC
>>> windshield, the blinds hang down about 1/3 of the way from
>>> the
>>> dash to
>>> the rear of the cockpit floor, interfering with the use of
>>> the
>>> cockpit.
>>> The bottom seam of drapes can be "thrown" up on top of the
>>> dash
>>> so that
>>> they approximately follow the windshield contour, making the
>>> cockpit
>>> more usable.
>>>
>>> Just so you buy with full knowledge.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Byron Songer wrote:
>>>
>>>> What Guske's have had is much nicer than the curtain in my
>>>> opinion. It's
>>>> pleated and folds nicely. Since it's firm and flat, it
>>>> doesn't
>>>> behave like a
>>>> drape. They also had replacement tracks and figured out a
>>>> way
>>>> to connect
>>>> behind the rearview mirror. That's on my wish list, which is
>>>> getting
>>>> overwhelmed by "need to replace this first" taking priority.
>>>> Today's new
>>>> priority is a furnace for staying warm in Elkhart, Indiana.
>>>>
>>>> Byron Songer
>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60613 is a reply to message #60611] |
Sun, 18 October 2009 23:49 |
GMCWiperMan
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OK, if you insist, I'll TRY not to let anyone else talk me out of it.
But you & Kara have got to agree to spend AT LEAST one night here when
you pick it up.
Me too -- 'way past.
Ken
Kosier wrote:
> Yes, I'm interested in the Sun Training Demonstrator that you
> have.
> You sent me pictures of it when you acquired it and I immediately
> had the hots for it, but under the circumstances, I couldn't
> possibly
> have asked for more.
> I think we'll probably be making a trip to Atlanta at Christmas
> or
> even earlier. Family situation.
> Jeez, I hope getting that piece means I have to die. I'm not
> ready!
>
> Gary -past my bedtime-
>
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