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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268018 is a reply to message #267939] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 09:58   |
Bob S.
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To answer the original question, I would be interested in this system if it is effective and reliable. The original system was removed from my coach by the PO and now I am running a home made version of the wireless system. I have been following Jim B. with his progress on a replacement system. I look forward to learning more about yours also.
Bob and Pam Schilling
Rapid City, SD
"78 Royale
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268021 is a reply to message #268018] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 10:17 |
James Hupy
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This is a tiny bit off subject, but the principles apply. One of the Apollo
astronauts quipped when asked the following question, "Aren't you concerned
about something going wrong way out there on the moon?" "Well let's see,
how would you like to be 238,000 miles from home, in the most complicated
machine ever devised, assembled from parts all supplied by the lowest
bidder?"
I think like this. If it has a solenoid or a relay in it, it is not a
question of will it fail, but WHEN will it fail. Some relays are very high
quality and are tested to perform hundreds of thousands of cycles, same for
solenoid air valves. But those kinds of components are very expensive and
are few and far between. Most of the offshore stuff I have seen is not that
high of quality. My basic intention is to make a replacement system that is
very reliable. Just my humble opinion. Yours may differ.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Dec 22, 2014 7:58 AM, "Bob Schilling" wrote:
> To answer the original question, I would be interested in this system if
> it is effective and reliable. The original system was removed from my coach
> by the PO and now I am running a home made version of the wireless system.
> I have been following Jim B. with his progress on a replacement system. I
> look forward to learning more about yours also.
> --
> Bob and Pam Schilling
> Rapid City, SD
> "78 Royale
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268022 is a reply to message #268017] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 10:36 |
Keith V
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 22 December 2014 09:48On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Keith V wrote:
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> Whats even cheaper is to block the bogies up with a 4x4 and just leave it
> parked out back by the Chicken Coop.
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wireless is cheaper and easier than that
Cheaper that a piece of 4x4?
Lets keep the lies down to the grandiose ok?
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268023 is a reply to message #268022] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 10:44 |
Mr ERFisher
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On Monday, December 22, 2014, Keith V wrote:
> Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 22 December 2014 09:48
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Keith V wrote:
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>>> Whats even cheaper is to block the bogies up with a 4x4 and just
> leave it
>>> parked out back by the Chicken Coop.
>>>
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>> wireless is cheaper and easier than that
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> Cheaper that a piece of 4x4?
> Lets keep the lies down to the grandiose ok?
leave it
>> parked out back by the Chicken Coop. .???
Either one of mine are worth a lot !!!
LIES .? My, my
Get a cup of coffee !
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> Mounds View. MN
> 75 ex Royale GMC
> 69 Vette
> 29 Dodge
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268026 is a reply to message #267939] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 11:34 |
jhbridges
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Well, someone asked about the flashlight, it's an old saw from the 70s - 80s when everything had to be 'microprocessor controlled'. Thus the microprocessor controlled flashlight, which has a three position switch: On, Off, and Reset.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268030 is a reply to message #268029] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 12:55 |
tphipps
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Writing Instrument:
NASA = $1 million to develop ball point pen that will write in weightless conditions.
Russian Space Agency = Nr# 2 pencil.
Simple can be the best solution. But, no harm in trying out new ideas. Where did I put the starting handle for my Model T?
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268031 is a reply to message #268023] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 13:25 |
Keith V
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 22 December 2014 10:44On Monday, December 22, 2014, Keith V wrote:
> Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 22 December 2014 09:48
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Keith V wrote:
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>>> Whats even cheaper is to block the bogies up with a 4x4 and just
> leave it
>>> parked out back by the Chicken Coop.
>>>
>>
>> wireless is cheaper and easier than that
>>
>
>
> Cheaper that a piece of 4x4?
> Lets keep the lies down to the grandiose ok?
leave it
>> parked out back by the Chicken Coop. .???
Either one of mine are worth a lot !!!
LIES .? My, my
Get a cup of coffee !
OK, I'll send you a 4x4, send me a wireless Air system in return then ok?
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268032 is a reply to message #268031] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 13:28 |
Keith V
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Keith V wrote on Mon, 22 December 2014 13:25
OK, I'll send you a 4x4, send me a wireless Air system in return then ok?
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In fact never mind.
I'm done with you, Keep spreading it thick and heavy, IDC
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268033 is a reply to message #267939] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 14:11 |
bwevers
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Saw this on Ebay:
REAR RIDE HEIGHT LEVEL SENSOR LAND ROVER RANGE ROVER DISCOVERY RQH100030
~ 30 Bucks for a potentiometer ride height sensor, the cheapest one available.
They range in price up to $135 for a modern type electronic height sensor.
If you add in the electronic valves and a control board, $450 for a complete system seems reasonable.
Regards,
Bill
Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States
1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon
455 F Block, G heads
San Jose
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268038 is a reply to message #268033] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 16:06 |
Jim at the Co-op
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"Complete system -- I know someone before said air delivery is separate
--- but you can replace "everything including the compressor, tank,
regulator, height sensors -- literally all of it if you are looking to
increase the reliability. The end system will only be as reliable as the
oldest, worse part.
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Bill Wevers wrote:
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> Saw this on Ebay:
> REAR RIDE HEIGHT LEVEL SENSOR LAND ROVER RANGE ROVER DISCOVERY RQH100030
> ~ 30 Bucks for a potentiometer ride height sensor, the cheapest one
> available.
> They range in price up to $135 for a modern type electronic height sensor.
> If you add in the electronic valves and a control board, $450 for a
> complete system seems reasonable.
>
> Regards,
> Bill
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Coach height control system [message #268040 is a reply to message #268021] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 16:51 |
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USAussie
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Jim,
There's a whole bunch of mis-information out there regarding that quote.
Actually it was Alan Shepard just before he became the first American in space during Project Mercury.
Below are the results of a Google search about it.
According to Gene Kranz in his book, Failure Is Not an Option, "When reporters asked Shepard what he thought about as he sat atop
the Redstone rocket, waiting for liftoff, he had replied, 'The fact that every part of this ship was built by the lowest bidder.'"
Anyone that has seen the movie Apollo 13 knows Gene Kranz; he was the Flight Director played by Ed Harris and wore a white vest.
"It's a very sobering feeling to be up in space and realize that one's safety factor was determined by the lowest bidder on a
government contract." Alan Shepard
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Hupy
This is a tiny bit off subject, but the principles apply. One of the Apollo
astronauts quipped when asked the following question, "Aren't you concerned
about something going wrong way out there on the moon?" "Well let's see,
how would you like to be 238,000 miles from home, in the most complicated
machine ever devised, assembled from parts all supplied by the lowest
bidder?"
I think like this. If it has a solenoid or a relay in it, it is not a
question of will it fail, but WHEN will it fail. Some relays are very high
quality and are tested to perform hundreds of thousands of cycles, same for
solenoid air valves. But those kinds of components are very expensive and
are few and far between. Most of the offshore stuff I have seen is not that
high of quality. My basic intention is to make a replacement system that is
very reliable. Just my humble opinion. Yours may differ.
Jim
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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