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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission leak down [message #259638 is a reply to message #259632] |
Thu, 21 August 2014 17:47   |
94nubble
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First off I did not call the part junk, someone else chimed in and said that. Biggest problem with this chat room. Second, I called Jim and asked him to look at the coach. The price was 7K not 3k. Get your facts right. He sent two of his guys over to look at the coach and they said the coach was in decent shape for the price. I bought the thing on this report. I get there and the frame is rusted, the black tank is busted wide open, obvious stuff and more. They took enough time to waste my $90. My plan was to stay with the seller, another GMC firm and go over the coach for a day. Well the mans mother had passed away and he couldn't spend the time. In desperation I called the COOP. Jim was a champ and let me stay the night and first thing got the coach up on the lift and went at it. We had some words about his guys tour of the coach but that is what I get for depending on someone who thinks any coach is worth the price as long as he thinks I'll spend another $50k with him to fix it up. Guess what hot shot I can do circles around you and your people with a set of tools. Jims mechanic installed that filter and proceeded to add fluid until the trans went into gear, creating an overflow situation when parked. Oh and by the way I did call the COOP to talk to you or your mechanic, but you were busy and I left a message with your office lady. Not my fault your people can't give you messages. You owe me refund Jim and thank goodness not a transmission.
Tom McManus
1977 Royale
Chesapeake VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission leak down [message #259655 is a reply to message #255576] |
Thu, 21 August 2014 18:45 |
Jim at the Co-op
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Do you reallt expect me to drop into that end of the gene pook. I am shaking as I type this, sorry for the typos. This is why I bever buy or sell coaches, you are a fool to take abtones word to but somethibg! Your expectations are way too big. You should not do that. Kepp it uo, you may be surprised how mych you do not know and I don't really care. Keep your cheap Chinese crap, ARP made no mabufacturing errors, it was insralled properly and if you wan t to further deag the good name of my business, there are remedies.
I'm not going to dignify you accusations, if you can prove something we did wrong bring it on. You own your American made filter kit and your cheap Chinese junk. Tell ya what, send me the filter, I will forward it to ATP. If there is something wrong I will double the cost to you. If there is nothing weong with it you owe me an apology and $1000. Effecting the good name of a legitimate business is worth far more than that.
One big problem with this forum, people tend to believe things no matter who says it. You have way more problems that whatever you think an ATP filter did. The fact is it didn't so guys believe me wheb I say that.
Unless you don't know any better, you should drop this thread and everyone reading this thread need to not blindly follow things you read here. This thread is a perfect example. We al "lol" when we say "take it all with a grain of salt" but its so true.
An American ATP filter kit is a quality part no matter how you look at it. I don't take liability for anything on you machine, all I did was put a filter kit into it and brother that ain't rocket science. What do you think 30 something year old parts do.... they break! Yours has a pile of original parts. I know you would not bring any work to me, you would rather rig it then do it again. Just leave me out of your rant, I have others that understand the real picture.
Think before you jump, this is over.
"It isn't smart to argue with a fool, listeners can't tell which is which"
Jim Bounds
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------
From: Tom McManus
Date: 08/21/2014 6:47 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Transmission leak down
First off I did not call the part junk, someone else chimed in and said that. Biggest problem with this chat room. Second, I called Jim and asked him
to look at the coach. The price was 7K not 3k. Get your facts right. He sent two of his guys over to look at the coach and they said the coach was in
decent shape for the price. I bought the thing on this report. I get there and the frame is rusted, the black tack is busted wide open, obvious stuff
and more. They took enough time to waste my $90. My plan was to stay with the seller, another GMC firm and go over the coach for a day. Well the mans
mother had passed away and he couldn't spend the time. In desperation I called the COOP. Jim was a champ and let me stay the night and first thing got
the coach up on the lift and went at it. We had some words about his guys tour of the coach but that is what I get for depending on someone who thinks
any coach is worth the price as long as he thinks I'll spend another $50k with him to fix it up. Guess what hot shot I can do circles around you and
your people with a set of tools. His mechanic installed that filter and proceeded to add fluid until the trans went into gear, creating an overflow
situation when parked. Oh and by the way I did call the COOP to talk to you or your mechanic, but you were busy and I left a message with your office
lady. Not my fault your people can't give you messages. You might be able to change a tire for a little old lady but I think she should call AAA.
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Tom McManus
1973 30' Canyon Lands
Chesapeake VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission leak down [message #259696 is a reply to message #259619] |
Thu, 21 August 2014 22:45 |
cadelec
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94nubble wrote on Thu, 21 August 2014 15:47It was not my intent to do anything except bring this problem to Forum as an issue being missed by the best in our world. http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/transmission-filter/p55601-dsc02637.html
with out getting too pedantic when using a set of verniers to measure a round object. should the flat sides of the legs of the gauge be placed across the diameter.
from the photo shown this does not apear to be the case could this be where the .018 discrepency lies
Trevor
Brisbane Australia
Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores)
71 Cadillac Eldo Convert
58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission leak down [message #259722 is a reply to message #259632] |
Fri, 22 August 2014 06:14 |
Ralphydoodoo
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The key word is
On Aug 21, 2014 6:08 PM, "Jim Bounds" wrote:
>
> Well brother you made your point, sorta like you did when I was here
> complaining to me about the POS you bought thinking a dealer would sell
you
> a cream puff cheap! You had me go look at it to verify what the seller
> said about the coach. We did that, wasn;t my fault the rst of the coach
> was falling apart around it's ears! Yea, it's a twin bed but that basket
> of bolts will in the end cost you plenty. There is no $2500 coach worth
> it's salt unless someone just gives it away and the person you got that
> from which will remain unmentioned has been in this business longer than
me
> and friend, "You ain't gitten a deal from him!"
>
> So yes, I take things personal, some say I should just let it go but I
have
> worked too long for some crap to hit me in the face. Yes, there are a
> couple of issues I would really love to expound on but those things would
> go no where other than making me feel better so I'll leave those along--
> that is unless I hear anything about them again. This one is a simple
fact
> of you saying I did something to you when I did not. My "stock" is not
sub
> quality in fact ATP has been building parts like this for a very long
time,
> their stuff costs more but I don't care, I want American made if I can get
> it and the best part I can find. There are too many "as good as" parts
out
> there with varying degrees of quality.
>
> I took part of my day today to investigate the claims of your mechanic who
> told you a cheap China part is made better than the quality American made
> one. I posted all my finding over on my daily pose, go have a look.
>
> You get what you pay for and trying to make a silt purse from a sous ear
> usually ends up with a cluster &^%#. If you point a gun at me you had
> better use it...
>
> Jim Bounds
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>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Tom McManus wrote:
>
>> It was not my intent to do anything except bring this problem to Forum
as
>> an issue being missed by the best in our world.
>>
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/transmission-filter/p55601-dsc02637.html
>> --
>> Tom McManus
>> 1973 30' Canyon Lands
>> Chesapeake VA
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The key word is MECHANIC. Any part is only as good as the " mechanic" that
installed the said part. And thats all I got to say about that.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission leak down [message #259727 is a reply to message #259722] |
Fri, 22 August 2014 06:54 |
Jim at the Co-op
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Ralph,
I think you have done enough to try and impact my business. You have gone
on media sites saying some really nasty things about my mechanic and my
business. Guys on this list, let me show you some of the things I have to
deal with. Ralph, you have disparaged my business to the point it can now
proceed in a legal manner.
Let me tell all of you what is going on, maybe you will understand that
throwing rocks should never be done in a glass house and why my blood
pressure is the way it is.
Ralph does not own a GMC Motorhome, Ralph has a business not more than 2
blocks from my shop. So you might ask, Why is he posting here and what has
he got against me?
OK, I'll tell you and remember Ralph-- I can say it if it's true, if it's
not it's a crime...
My mechanic Hank is the older brother of my painter who has been with me
for over 14 years. He is family and our business survives from people
helping people. Hank, the mechanic, used to run a shop that now this guy
Ralph runs. If I posted you pics of the place you would understand but I
won't unless forced. Anyway, Hank is now with us in the fold and he has
fit in beautifully-- as many mechanics they no longer get along so Ralph
has taken it upon himself to try and throw water on all of our efforts. He
has done some things trying to effect my business that I will tell you
after I get permission from my council.
I am surprised you have now purged yourself far beyond anything I could
hope for to show your intent. You may think it's cute whatyou are doing
and in years past southern gentlemen would know how to handle things but
it's 2014, we don't do that, we take legal recourse and that's what is
going to happen.
I don't know why I attract folks like this, maybe it's because I really try
and help people-- some see that a sign of weakness and try and take
advantage. Well bunky, the gloves are off.
OK the moderator of this forum and everyone reading these things should
lock this person out from our mail list, what he is doing is not in line
with the focus of our group. If you want to continue to help a man bury
himself further leave him on this list and see what happens. This forum is
not here to damage people or businesses for that matter. It's all about
communication and support.
You really surprised me Ralph, though you were smarter than this. Guys,
here's a good target for your misplaced aggression-- welcome "Ralph" into
our group!
This time I am goin to take my comments to someone who will get me
satisfaction,
Jim Bounds
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Ralph Zelik
wrote:
> The key word is
> On Aug 21, 2014 6:08 PM, "Jim Bounds" wrote:
>>
>> Well brother you made your point, sorta like you did when I was here
>> complaining to me about the POS you bought thinking a dealer would sell
> you
>> a cream puff cheap! You had me go look at it to verify what the seller
>> said about the coach. We did that, wasn;t my fault the rst of the coach
>> was falling apart around it's ears! Yea, it's a twin bed but that basket
>> of bolts will in the end cost you plenty. There is no $2500 coach worth
>> it's salt unless someone just gives it away and the person you got that
>> from which will remain unmentioned has been in this business longer than
> me
>> and friend, "You ain't gitten a deal from him!"
>>
>> So yes, I take things personal, some say I should just let it go but I
> have
>> worked too long for some crap to hit me in the face. Yes, there are a
>> couple of issues I would really love to expound on but those things would
>> go no where other than making me feel better so I'll leave those along--
>> that is unless I hear anything about them again. This one is a simple
> fact
>> of you saying I did something to you when I did not. My "stock" is not
> sub
>> quality in fact ATP has been building parts like this for a very long
> time,
>> their stuff costs more but I don't care, I want American made if I can
> get
>> it and the best part I can find. There are too many "as good as" parts
> out
>> there with varying degrees of quality.
>>
>> I took part of my day today to investigate the claims of your mechanic
> who
>> told you a cheap China part is made better than the quality American made
>> one. I posted all my finding over on my daily pose, go have a look.
>>
>> You get what you pay for and trying to make a silt purse from a sous ear
>> usually ends up with a cluster &^%#. If you point a gun at me you had
>> better use it...
>>
>> Jim Bounds
>> -------------------------------
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Tom McManus wrote:
>>
>>> It was not my intent to do anything except bring this problem to Forum
> as
>>> an issue being missed by the best in our world.
>>>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/transmission-filter/p55601-dsc02637.html
>>> --
>>> Tom McManus
>>> 1973 30' Canyon Lands
>>> Chesapeake VA
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> The key word is MECHANIC. Any part is only as good as the " mechanic" that
> installed the said part. And thats all I got to say about that.
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| Re: Transmission [message #259784 is a reply to message #259764] |
Fri, 22 August 2014 16:54 |
Carl S.
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My Local Parts Plus affiliated parts house (Merle's) always gets me ATP transmission filters. I have never had a problem with them, and would be reluctant to use anything else.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission leak down [message #259786 is a reply to message #259727] |
Fri, 22 August 2014 17:46 |
Ken Burton
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Jim,
Isn't this the same "nut job" that said he had Eldo coil springs installed on the front of his Birchaven about 6 or 8 weeks ago? When asked for pictures he could not provide them.
Now he wants to talk about quality mechanics.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission leak down [message #259790 is a reply to message #259786] |
Fri, 22 August 2014 18:14 |
Jim at the Co-op
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Man, I don't know, it blew my mind that he actually followed me here to
this forum to do his little jabs. I have a defendable position so I;'ll
now take care of this. I don't think you guys need to hear anything he
wants to say. he should not be on this forum, he is just here to jab at
me. Come on man, take your best shot-- things will get serious from here.
Nut job yes, anyone wanna see his shop? No, unless I hear anything else
from him. Hey you guys can be a witness!
Naaa, let me handle this,
Jim bounds
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Isn't this the same "nut job" that said he had Eldo coil springs installed
> on the front of his Birchaven about 6 or 8 weeks ago? When asked for
> pictures he could not provide them.
>
> Now he wants to talk about quality mechanics.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Transmission [message #259791 is a reply to message #255572] |
Fri, 22 August 2014 18:50 |
lotsofspareparts
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I'll take the heat...... anyone wanna argue about Canasians again?
Just Kidding, hoping this gives everyone a laugh.
Back away from the PC... take a deep breath... go fire up the barbeque... have a beer while waiting for the burger to cook. Life is to short...
My humble opinion guys.
Jared
Jared & Tina Lazaron + 14yr old Daughter.....
77 Eleganza II "Recherché".....
73 Canyon Lands 230 "Elephant"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission leak down [message #259834 is a reply to message #259562] |
Sat, 23 August 2014 15:12 |
Bob de Kruyff
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A Hamilto wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 23:1394nubble wrote on Wed, 20 August 2014 18:55...Turns out that it was the filter. ... the filter was installed down at the COOP. ... Mr. Bounds does not spend a lot of time here on the forum so he won't know that he might have junk in his stock. Somebody should call him and advise that he needs to check his inventory of transmission filters for more substandard units so he can purge them before another one gets installed.
All I can say is "Holy Shit""
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission [message #259840 is a reply to message #259816] |
Sat, 23 August 2014 15:49 |
Jim Galbavy
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JR,
Who did you purchase the extinguishers from? Jim Bounds wasn't there. Ada
and I was at Bean Station that year (2013). ....I don't recall talking to you
about any and if I recall, I don't think we even sold any that rally. What model did
you buy? .....and why wait a year and a half to ask on a public forum? Fire Fight does
have a website and an e-mail address for things like that.
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission [message #259843 is a reply to message #259840] |
Sat, 23 August 2014 16:36 |
Jerry Wheeler
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JIm Galbavy,
I did buy them from you and you told me how to mount them. When I finally
got to thinking about mounting them, I had forgot some of what you had
said. So I emailed Jim Bounds twice; no answer. Jim B finds plenty of
time to post on the net, so why does he not answer those emails sent
directly to him; especially from a customer asking questions about his
products?? I only mentioned the fire extinquisher emails because he never
answered them; I ended up asking JimK.
Jim Bounds,
Why don't you open the email I sent to your Yahoo account and see what my
question was?? If you don't want us to use your Yahoo account to contact
you, then delete it off your web site. I don't call you because you are a
busy man and as you have said many times here on the net, your accountant
keeps telling you to find another profession since you aren't making money;
I figure you are busy trying to make ends meet and I respect that,
therefore I don't call you. If you want the net to know what my question
is about the Jasper engine, I'll ask it. I also gave you my phone number
in a previous email here in this thread, call me if you can't find my email
in your Yahoo mailbox.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] Transmission [message #259845 is a reply to message #259844] |
Sat, 23 August 2014 17:50 |
Carl S.
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JR,
FYI, I have found that it is always better to get Jim Bounds on the phone. He doesn't always see emails, but from my experience, he is always willing to help over the phone.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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