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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76645 is a reply to message #76630] |
Sun, 14 March 2010 18:24   |
Steven Ferguson
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Gary,
We just drive in, find and empty spot and check in in the AM. We've
done that at a lot of places. Glad you liked it, sorry you didn't
stay. It is a darn nice place.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Steve;
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> I stopped at the Buckhorn Lake RV park like you recommended when I
> got to Kerrville on my way through Texas. It's a BEAUTIFUL place. The
> office was closed when I showed up and no way to check in, so couldn't
> stay there. I had to go the other way on the road and found the KOA.
> Would have stayed at the Buckhorn if possible. Kerrville has a Walmart
> SuperCenter if one wants to stay there.
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> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hal,
>> Jim said he might stop here on the way. We are leaving early AM
>> Weds. First stop is the KOA at Van Horn, next on is Buckhorn Lake RV
>> park in Kerrville. Excellent Mexican restaurant in Kerrville.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76667 is a reply to message #76630] |
Sun, 14 March 2010 22:04 |
Larry C
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Kerrville has a Walmart
SuperCenter if one wants to stay there.
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Are they still allowing stay-overs?
When this all started out, I thought it was a great idea, to allow a camper to get some rest while on the go for a night and maybe sell a couple things to the camper.
HOWEVER, the big 'Wallmart in Gurnee, which has now grown to a SUPER, used to allow overnights but now there are signs saying don't stay here or you will be towed.
has WallyMart changed recently??
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76677 is a reply to message #76667] |
Sun, 14 March 2010 23:15 |
Ken Burton
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| Larry C wrote on Sun, 14 March 2010 22:04 |
Kerrville has a Walmart
SuperCenter if one wants to stay there.
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Are they still allowing stay-overs?
When this all started out, I thought it was a great idea, to allow a camper to get some rest while on the go for a night and maybe sell a couple things to the camper.
HOWEVER, the big 'Wallmart in Gurnee, which has now grown to a SUPER, used to allow overnights but now there are signs saying don't stay here or you will be towed.
has WallyMart changed recently??
LarC ( Always looking for a free overnight in a safe area since Rest Areas are now deemed dangerous. )
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I stop at Walmarts all over the country. I have only had problems at 2. Grand Junction, Colorado said no but to go across the street to Sams Club, and Cortez, Colorado. In Cortez they told me that the signs are up but to ignore them or go down the street a couple of block to the old Walmart which was still owned by them. In both cases the city made them do it but there was a way around them.
When I stopped in Fernley, NV they told me "Are you kidding, we love you guys". In Roswell, MN I asked a downtown merchant where the was an RV park. They fellow told me that the only one in town was Camp Walmart.
Usually there are at least 4 or 5 other motorhomes and in one place I counted 17.
The Walmart Supercenter near me almost always has 3 or 4 motor homes parked over night year round and we are not on an Interstate.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76694 is a reply to message #76667] |
Mon, 15 March 2010 07:30 |
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| Larry C wrote on Sun, 14 March 2010 23:04 |
Are they still allowing stay-overs?
When this all started out, I thought it was a great idea, to allow a camper to get some rest while on the go for a night and maybe sell a couple things to the camper.
HOWEVER, the big 'Wallmart in Gurnee, which has now grown to a SUPER, used to allow overnights but now there are signs saying don't stay here or you will be towed.
has WallyMart changed recently??
LarC ( Always looking for a free overnight in a safe area since Rest Areas are now deemed dangerous. )
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Larry,
Walmart has Never Changed their policy.
Many communities have put "no RV parking off campgrounds and storage lot" ordinances in at the behest of local RV parks that think they are losing a night's rate to us Wally World campers.
This is an amazingly short-sighted approach. When we travel in the coach - probably a lot like most other GMC owners - where we stop for the night is a matter if tiredness and convenience. We are not predisposed to pay 30+ for a flat spot that provides services we don't need or want. So, when the data base says no over-night in that town, we go on to the next town without stopping to look for an "RV Resort" of any nature.
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76697 is a reply to message #76694] |
Mon, 15 March 2010 08:05 |
Jim Bounds
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Matt,
Looking at the big picture on "no overnight camping" is not focued as much on folks hunkering down at Wall-mart but at people like I saw in LA where old beat up RV's are parked everywhere-- in plazas, mall parking lots even on the streets with blocked off windows and everything with people literally squatting there and living. This really is a problem for security, competition for parking spots and all sorts of other stuff. Unfortunatly, laws have to be for everyone and we have to fit ourselves into them.
When travelling, I usually fuel up and eat and whatever at Flying J truck stops or maybe Loves or another one. They will let you sleep a while in the truck areas and really thats what you are looking for. You can hang in a reast area for a good rest as long as you don;t roll out your awing, plop out lawn chairs and pull out the barby so that also works for me.
Wally World has attracted those that want the right to do whatever they want on someone elses dime and thats not fair. There are liability, cleanliness and security considerations that are attached with you cooling your jets on a property and my guess is Wal-Mart probably has it's share of nucance suits they are fighting on unscrupulous people trying to get something for nothing from them.
Hey, plan your trip around nation, state and local parks-- they are cheaper, use the truck stops to sleep and do whatever and know that not everyone is as considerate as you are.
Jim Bounds
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From: Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net>
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Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 8:30:23 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes
Larry C wrote on Sun, 14 March 2010 23:04
> Are they still allowing stay-overs?
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> When this all started out, I thought it was a great idea, to allow a camper to get some rest while on the go for a night and maybe sell a couple things to the camper.
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> HOWEVER, the big 'Wallmart in Gurnee, which has now grown to a SUPER, used to allow overnights but now there are signs saying don't stay here or you will be towed.
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> has WallyMart changed recently??
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> LarC ( Always looking for a free overnight in a safe area since Rest Areas are now deemed dangerous. )
Larry,
Walmart has Never Changed their policy.
Many communities have put "no RV parking off campgrounds and storage lot" ordinances in at the behest of local RV parks that think they are losing a night's rate to us Wally World campers.
This is an amazingly short-sighted approach. When we travel in the coach - probably a lot like most other GMC owners - where we stop for the night is a matter if tiredness and convenience. We are not predisposed to pay 30+ for a flat spot that provides services we don't need or want. So, when the data base says no over-night in that town, we go on to the next town without stopping to look for an "RV Resort" of any nature.
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76719 is a reply to message #76711] |
Mon, 15 March 2010 11:45 |
Gary Berry
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Hey Emery;
Yep, that was there, and there was a list of spaces that were
reserved (a lot of them) and I guess a list of open sites. I stood
there for 15 minutes trying to figure out their code, their map, and
their instructions, but none of it made sense and I didn't want to
wind up in someone's reserved site, so I left. I'll try and stay there
again, but only if I get there before the office closes or if you or
others go with me and you can tell me how the system works. To me,
Walmarts and rest areas are easier than campgrounds if you show up
late. Plus, what happens if you get up early and want to leave before
the office opens?
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
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> The last time I stayed there there was a small sign by the door that
> just said to park in an empty spot and come to the office in the
> morning to pay.
> A lot of campgrounds do that.
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> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76734 is a reply to message #76719] |
Mon, 15 March 2010 12:37 |
Ken Burton
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| Gary Berry wrote on Mon, 15 March 2010 11:45 |
Hey Emery;
Yep, that was there, and there was a list of spaces that were
reserved (a lot of them) and I guess a list of open sites. I stood
there for 15 minutes trying to figure out their code, their map, and
their instructions, but none of it made sense and I didn't want to
wind up in someone's reserved site, so I left. I'll try and stay there
again, but only if I get there before the office closes or if you or
others go with me and you can tell me how the system works. To me,
Walmarts and rest areas are easier than campgrounds if you show up
late. Plus, what happens if you get up early and want to leave before
the office opens?
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What I like about Walmarts is they are quieter than flying J or Lowes or most RV parks near Interstates. - No idling trucks all night at Walmart. They are also a one stop shop for everything I need to buy and at most of them I can go shopping anytime of night that I want something.
I did run into one FlyingJ just east of Denver that had no overnight parking for RVs even though they had hundreds of trucks parked there. The Flying J people told me to park in the employee lot as the cops could not check there.
I have heard that there are a lot of Walmarts in Kalifornia where you can not park. I have not run into them but I do not drive a GMC there very often. On my last trip to the Peoples Republic, Dan picked me out a Walmart to stop at on I-80. It was not a problem.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76756 is a reply to message #76734] |
Mon, 15 March 2010 16:46 |
C Boyd
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| Ken Burton wrote on Mon, 15 March 2010 13:37 |
| Gary Berry wrote on Mon, 15 March 2010 11:45 |
Hey Emery;
Yep, that was there, and there was a list of spaces that were
reserved (a lot of them) and I guess a list of open sites. I stood
there for 15 minutes trying to figure out their code, their map, and
their instructions, but none of it made sense and I didn't want to
wind up in someone's reserved site, so I left. I'll try and stay there
again, but only if I get there before the office closes or if you or
others go with me and you can tell me how the system works. To me,
Walmarts and rest areas are easier than campgrounds if you show up
late. Plus, what happens if you get up early and want to leave before
the office opens?
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What I like about Walmarts is they are quieter than flying J or Lowes or most RV parks near Interstates. - No idling trucks all night at Walmart. They are also a one stop shop for everything I need to buy and at most of them I can go shopping anytime of night that I want something.
I did run into one FlyingJ just east of Denver that had no overnight parking for RVs even though they had hundreds of trucks parked there. The Flying J people told me to park in the employee lot as the cops could not check there.
I have heard that there are a lot of Walmarts in Kalifornia where you can not park. I have not run into them but I do not drive a GMC there very often. On my last trip to the Peoples Republic, Dan picked me out a Walmart to stop at on I-80. It was not a problem.
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Ken: and others: If you have any trouble parking or any other issues at a Flying J, just tell them you are a registered voter in Tennessee. The Flying J new owner is Pilot OIl Co, Owned by Bill Haslam mayor of Knoxville, who is running for governor of Tennessee.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76802 is a reply to message #76756] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 04:24 |
Ken Burton
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| C Boyd wrote on Mon, 15 March 2010 16:46 |
Ken: and others: If you have any trouble parking or any other issues at a Flying J, just tell them you are a registered voter in Tennessee. The Flying J new owner is Pilot OIl Co, Owned by Bill Haslam mayor of Knoxville, who is running for governor of Tennessee.
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What surprised me about them is they went into Chapter 11 in Late 2008. I always thought they were doing great. Then last year (2009) Pilot took them over. I assume Pilot assumed their debt and got the company for next to nothing. They were the largest retailer of Diesel in the country. It appears that Pilot is going to continue to operate Flying J as a stand alone subsidiary.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76803 is a reply to message #76734] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 06:36 |
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All this talk about freebies. When we stop for the night, I want
quality. I don't want to listen to big rigs pulling in and out all
night, hookers knocking on doors, bums hawking jewelry and some dude
begging for the las $5 so he can get enough gas to get to wherever. I
also don't want to walk across a parking lot with an inch of grease
and oil covering it. I want a place where we can walk the dogs, put
out the chairs, rustle someting up on the grill etc. It has always
been the trip for us, not the destination.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
> I did run into one FlyingJ just east of Denver that had no overnight parking for RVs even though they had hundreds of trucks parked there. The Flying J people told me to park in the employee lot as the cops could not check there.
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> I have heard that there are a lot of Walmarts in Kalifornia where you can not park. I have not run into them but I do not drive a GMC there very often. On my last trip to the Peoples Republic, Dan picked me out a Walmart to stop at on I-80. It was not a problem.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76812 is a reply to message #76803] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 08:34 |
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Steve
We are the same way.
In fact our daughter hated camping at "Camp Wal-Mart" with her husband.
He wanted to save $'s.
She would go in the Wal-Mart and spend as much or more then it would cost
for a real camp ground.
They no longer camp at "Camp Wal-Mart" as she called it.
It is about the trip.
Howard
Alpine CA
PS The only time we camp in a parking lot was in Bishop CA for Mule Days.
It was still about the trip we could walk less then two blocks to the Bishop
Fair Grounds.
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From: "Steven Ferguson" <botiemad11@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes
All this talk about freebies. When we stop for the night, I want
quality. I don't want to listen to big rigs pulling in and out all
night, hookers knocking on doors, bums hawking jewelry and some dude
begging for the las $5 so he can get enough gas to get to wherever. I
also don't want to walk across a parking lot with an inch of grease
and oil covering it. I want a place where we can walk the dogs, put
out the chairs, rustle someting up on the grill etc. It has always
been the trip for us, not the destination.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
> I did run into one FlyingJ just east of Denver that had no overnight
> parking for RVs even though they had hundreds of trucks parked there. The
> Flying J people told me to park in the employee lot as the cops could not
> check there.
>
> I have heard that there are a lot of Walmarts in Kalifornia where you can
> not park. I have not run into them but I do not drive a GMC there very
> often. On my last trip to the Peoples Republic, Dan picked me out a
> Walmart to stop at on I-80. It was not a problem.
>
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> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76827 is a reply to message #76697] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 11:56 |
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Jim Bounds writes...
> Unfortunatly, laws have to be for
> everyone and we have to fit ourselves into them.
How about this law: Property owners can allow people to park
overnight, or not, as they see fit. And if they tell people not to,
and they do, the police can come help shoo them off for trespassing.
Isn't that already the law? Do we really need another law to fix that?
If Wal-Mart wants to prohibit overnight parking, well then it's their
land. If they don't, it's still their land. I suspect that the local
politicians who are dictating these ordinances are not usually
consulting Wal-Mart management when doing so. I suspect they are
sensitive to those who don't like Wal-Mart, which seems to be just
about everybody except when they are shopping there.
If squatters were the real issue, they would write the law to prohibit
parking for more than 24 hours rather prohibiting overnight parking.
> Hey, plan your trip around nation, state and local parks-- they are
> cheaper, use the truck stops to sleep and do whatever and know that
> not everyone is as considerate as you are.
Truck stops are too noisy for sleep, and too infrequent on many
highways favored by RVers. State parks close too early, and so do
campgrounds. Wal-Mart and Cracker Barrel provide a service few others
are providing.
Rick "thinking Wal-Mart is usually not well-connected with local
political bosses and thus an easy target for feigned outrage" Denney
'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76829 is a reply to message #76803] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 12:06 |
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Steven Ferguson writes...
> It has always
> been the trip for us, not the destination.
It is for us, too, much of the time. But not always. With our work
schedules and many demands for limited vacation time, we sometimes
have to make tracks to our destination. In the past, that has often
meant driving in late and leaving early.
Any more, we don't have enough time even for that approach.
As with anything, it wouldn't work if everyone used it the same way.
But that someone doesn't want to use it or see it doesn't mean it has
no value or validity for others.
Rick "limited to destinations within a short day's drive for several
years now" Denney
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Northern Virginia
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76838 is a reply to message #76349] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 13:47 |
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Walmart doesn't always own the land under the parking lot, and not
necessarily the land the store is on. sometimes it is leased or rented,
or just shared with the rest of the businesses in that mall.
ronc
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:56:42 -0400 Rick Denney <rick@rickdenney.com>
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> Jim Bounds writes...
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> > Unfortunatly, laws have to be for
> > everyone and we have to fit ourselves into them.
>
> How about this law: Property owners can allow people to park
> overnight, or not, as they see fit. And if they tell people not to,
> and they do, the police can come help shoo them off for
> trespassing.
>
Ron & Linda Clark
1978 Eleganza II
North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76854 is a reply to message #76838] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 17:15 |
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Hard to meet local people at a camp ground...and from them, you hear what to
see and do while in their area....
.Mike in NS
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:47 PM, rallymaster <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:
> Walmart doesn't always own the land under the parking lot, and not
> necessarily the land the store is on. sometimes it is leased or rented,
> or just shared with the rest of the businesses in that mall.
>
> ronc
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> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:56:42 -0400 Rick Denney <rick@rickdenney.com>
> writes:
> > Jim Bounds writes...
> >
> > > Unfortunatly, laws have to be for
> > > everyone and we have to fit ourselves into them.
> >
> > How about this law: Property owners can allow people to park
> > overnight, or not, as they see fit. And if they tell people not to,
> > and they do, the police can come help shoo them off for
> > trespassing.
> >
> Ron & Linda Clark
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC motorhomes [message #76888 is a reply to message #76829] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 21:10 |
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Yeah,
I hear that Rick. I've had a very hard time slowing down since
retireing. I'm getting there though.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Rick Denney <rick@rickdenney.com> wrote:
> Steven Ferguson writes...
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>> It has always
>> been the trip for us, not the destination.
>
> It is for us, too, much of the time. But not always. With our work
> schedules and many demands for limited vacation time, we sometimes
> have to make tracks to our destination. In the past, that has often
> meant driving in late and leaving early.
>
> Any more, we don't have enough time even for that approach.
>
> As with anything, it wouldn't work if everyone used it the same way.
> But that someone doesn't want to use it or see it doesn't mean it has
> no value or validity for others.
>
> Rick "limited to destinations within a short day's drive for several
> years now" Denney
>
> '73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
> Northern Virginia
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