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[GMCnet] Re: Fuel Injection [message #368352 is a reply to message #368350] Tue, 04 January 2022 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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I get occasional offers from Biz Jet operators that offer point to point
services for 4 or fewer people. Some are kinda like a car club that sell
memberships, others offer per flight prices. They are not cheap, but for
what they do offer, it would make sense if I had a company to pay for it.
Huge savings in time, and at the corporate level that equates to big
dollars in savings.
A number of years ago, my first Wife Mary and I owned a thriving
flower shop, and we purchased all of our supplies and containers, etc at
gift shows in Vegas and Chicago and Seattle and San Francisco. We had
vendors who would arrange complimentary flights, to and from, transport,
hotel and meal accommodation for us in exchange for an annual purchase of
our inventory. We took advantage of those offers, probably spent in the
tens of thousands of dollars annually with those vendors. We usually worked
in some Vegas shows, or off Broadway live stuff in Chicago. Kinda mini
vacations for us. But, alas those days are long gone.
Now it is the GMC and Rallies. It is very useful to transport
presentation and vendor materials, and we have a whole bunch of stoves, big
utensils, etc. that go in the trailer that we drag behind the Coach.
Different but we enjoy it a whole lot.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, 11:05 AM Ken Henderson wrote:

> Jim,
>
> I agree with you about commercial flying these days. After we returned
> from the Rhine River cruise with Manny & Deo a few years ago, I resolved,
> "The only way I'll fly again is if I can look out the cockpit windows."
>
> My granddaughter last week came up with the answer to that excuse for not
> taking the family to Hawaii again: "You can just rent a passenger jet --
> Let's see, at current rates (she's a scheduler for Delta), that will only
> cost you $260,000 (or some such absurd number which I ignored) for the 11
> of us!" :-) or more appropriately :-(
>
> I guess my ONLY mode of extended travel from now on will be the GMC.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:38 PM James Hupy wrote:
>
>> Having done at least 3 coast to coast trips in our GMC and too many 600
>> mile one way trips to remember, we are confirmed motor home travelers.
>> I have flown commercial flights many, many times. When it was just
>> show up, get your boarding pass, and check your luggage it was tolerable.
>> But, today is a whole different situation. Get there 2 hours before your
>> flight is scheduled to leave, stand in line to be subjected to everything
>> but a cavity probe, and endless stupid questions from government
> employees
>> who appear to me to be bored with having gainful employment, only to have
>> your flight delayed or cancelled all together, is not my idea of a
> pleasant
>> experience.
>> We occasionally eat dinner at a restaurant called the flight deck at
>> Salem Airport. It overlooks a fixed base operator and fueling depot.
>> Frequented by all manner of biz jets etc. They taxi up, passengers board
>> while the crew handles their luggage, they board, strap in a roomy
>> comfortable seat, taxi out and are airborne in 20 minutes or less, then
> fly
>> closer to their ultimate destination than you can get on large airlines,
>> where a limo or some such picks them up very near the plane. Now that's
> the
>> "ONLY WAY TO FLY" that has much appeal to me.
>> Oh yes, throw Covid into the mix. Large half drunk crowds make me
>> uneasy, especially in an aluminum tube the size of a large sewer pipe.
> But,
>> that's just me, I guess.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, 10:03 AM CJV wrote:
>>
>>> Kathy and I have discussed this issue ad nauseum. After 10 years of
>>> traveling in our 36' diesel and recording the costs it is clear that
>>> spending 6 months of every year wandering around, it is marginally
>> cheaper
>>> than flying, or driving a car and staying in hotels. But the real
>> argument
>>> is that you are master of your own fate and can disregard all airline
> and
>>> hotel limitations. Nothing beats parking in the desert, or National
>> Forest,
>>> at random, all by yourself, free, for the night.
>>>
>>> CJ Vermeulen, Scribbler
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Matt Colie"
>>> To: "gmclist"
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 11:08:42 AM
>>> Subject: [GMCnet] Re: Fuel Injection
>>>
>>> Keith V wrote on Tue, 04 January 2022 09:38
>>>> James Hupy said:
>>>> " If I was concerned about fuel economy, I would... "
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is really concerned about fuel economy, they wouldn't be
>>> driving a motorhome!
>>>>
>>>> To me the choice is to drive a compact car to a hotel in the city v
>>> drive a cool ol coach and camp in a beautiful campground while still
>> having
>>>> all the comforts of home. The GMC is nice, cheap, maintainable cool
> and
>>> small. The only thing smaller is a van, but they arn't cheaper or
> better.
>>>>
>>>> Keith Vasilakes
>>>
>>> Keith,
>>>
>>> I can tell that you never ran the numbers of travel.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, flying is cheaper. Get there, rent a car, see what you can
>> and
>>> fly home. You get to see almost as much in between as you do from the
>>> interstate. Things you can't do from an airplane: Rt-66, The Great
>> River
>>> Road, The Blue Ridge Parkway and the Natchez Trace. (Just for
>> starters...)
>>> Taking your own car, stay in motels (Only pick those with a breakfast
>>> bar), and then add in the restaurants and such is actually more
>> expensive.
>>> Cheap motels are now 70$ a night. At least in your own car, you can
> get
>>> off the blue roads and see something. (Like any one of a number of
> little
>>> museums and historic sights that we either planned a stop or tripped
> over
>>> on our way to somewhere.
>>> OK, fuel for the coach isn't cheap, but now we are cooking our own
> meals
>>> so we get what we want. We can put the left-overs in the reefer.
> Drinks
>>> and
>>> snacks on the road are right there. If there isn't a motel where we
>>> decide to stop for the night, there is probably at least a flat sort of
>>> quiet
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Airlines have schedules. We don't.
>>> Road trips need restaurants and Motels. We don't
>>> The dog(s) don't need to get boarded somewhere, she comes along.
>>> (Unfortunately, we are now down to just one dog.)
>>>
>>> Yes, I am dweeb engineer and live a lot of my life at the bottom left
>>> corner of a spreadsheet, but all the time I was growing and
> particularly
>>> when we
>>> lived in a house and had a television, I would watch travel shows.
> Those
>>> were places I dreamed of getting to see, and we have gotten to many of
>> them.
>>> You just can't get to some places by boat and a motorhome is the
> nearest
>>> thing to a boat that I know.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> --
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