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Fri, 10 December 2021 11:45 |
Bill Van Vlack
Messages: 419 Registered: September 2015 Location: Guemes Island, Washington
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Here's a description of the starting sequence for GM ECMs that I picked up somewhere.
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STARTING MODE
When you first key on the ignition, the ECM loads the information off the PROM chip and performs a quick, self-diagnostic test. Some later ECMs also pulsed the injectors during this period to aid in what is known as “quick start” (obviously helping the engine startup more quickly). All of this happens in a very short amount of time, usually much less than 1 second after the key is turned on. Also during this period the fuel pump is activated for 2 seconds to “prime” the system. Next, the ECM waits until it receives reference pulses from the distributor (or crank sensor). Once it receives reference pulses (indicating the engine is turning over) it will use air/fuel ratio values stored in the cranking fuel pulse tables (in the PROM programming) which are based on the coolant temperature to determine how much pulse width (amount of injector ON time) it needs to command the fuel injectors open. The lower the coolant temperature, the richer the Air/Fuel ratio. The higher the coolant temperature, the leaner the Air/Fuel ratio. Ignition spark advance and IAC valve position output functions use similar tables.
I misread the cranking signal pin earlier; it should be pin C9, not C3. I'll change the post as well. From the above, if the ECM doesn't know the engine is cranking, it won't fire the injectors.
I used the spade on the terminal pin to pull in a relay which energizes an IGN terminal strip since I had other loads that needed IGN power and I didn't want the ignition switch to carry all those loads.
Here is the DynamicEFI drawing showing the ECM pin connections and wiring. Note Pin C9.
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
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