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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Guess what’s coming to Chez Denney [message #362992 is a reply to message #362986] Tue, 23 March 2021 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Richard Denney wrote on Tue, 23 March 2021 14:10
Matt, I have a power-company hub transformer in my yard, 35 feet from the
corner of this barn. I will be paying an electrician just enough to install
a 300-amp panel and add a separately metered service from the power
company. I'll run all the branches myself. I have no interior finish on the
walls, so I can attach conduit runs wherever I want them. I'll be able to
go through walls as needed, too. I'm planning two 30-amp RV ports outside,
one inside, plus another two for bigger tools, and yet another one for a
compressor. Then, maybe five 20-amp branches, one for the attic, a 240V
20-amp branch for the attic, and lighting (I plan to use large LED bay
lights, maybe 8 of them). The heading system requires two 60's and a 30. I
just don't see how less than 300 amps could make me happy Smile

But I think I can go through the walls for all that. The power company will
want the meter can on the outside in any case, and then punch through the
wall to an interior panel.

Rick "those LED bay lights are BRIGHT" Denney


Rick,

I used 3 of these 200W Bay Lights in the shop area (roughly 1300 sq ft) where I wanted more light. Still have to use some task lighting under the coach because of shadows. I used 2 of the larger 250W lights in the Cold Storage (48 x 48) which gives plenty of light in there - I'm not doing any long term work in that area.

I've had them in about 6 months and they work great! I have switches at every walk-thru door. Lots of wire but worth doing in my opinion.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V9HC5SD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I was curious about how you were going to heat water. Based on your last post, sounds like you may be using an electric boiler? I'm using a hot water heater and it has been working great - got me through the polar vortex with temps below freezing for a week and well below zero during 2 or 3 nights. At that time, I was seeing about keeping the rooms at 70 degrees with just the floor and it maintained that temp while only cycling 2 or 3 times during the real cold part. I have decided to have the floor run at about 60 degrees which is OK for working in the shop and use the mini-splits to raise the temps in the break room - unfortunately, I probably will spend most of my time there hoping the work gets done. Next winter I will experiment with this more - maybe even keeping the floor down at 50 degrees and see how the mini-splits do pulling up the heat. I really only need the higher heat when I'm out there in the barn and can't see paying for the heat other times. I have looked into air-to-water heat pumps to heat the water which is an excellent way to go. Unfortunately, the US is way behind Asia and Europe with this technology and use so prices are fairly steep. I got my mini-splits at Menards and installed them myself so that did not cost much and will provide cooling in the summer.

Better than that would be geo-thermal with a heat pump to exchange heat into the water. Probably would be the most efficient approach. I have a geo-thermal system at my current home with heat and air through regular air ducts. Quite efficient but the barn, heating about the same square footage and more volume because of the high ceilings cost slightly less than my house.

Enough rambling!


Randy & Margie
'77 Eleganza II '403'
Battlefield, MO
 
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