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GMC2000
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mrgmc3 wrote on Tue, 19 June 2018 22:04Sounds like you really want to try 80s electronic controls on your GMC. FYI the Olds V8 continued in 307 cu in displacement through 1990 in some full size GM cars. These later years all have electronic quadrajets and HEI. I don't know if they had knock sensor control.
For what it is worth I'd stick with the OE quadrajet. They are incredibly tunable and if you are familiar with other carbs you can learn quadrajets as there are a few good books devoted to the subject such Doug Roe's book. The later years (76-78) have adjustable part throttle (APT) metering. Between primary jetting, primary rods (the GMCs are a special triple taper), secondary rods, primary power piston springs and the APT the Q-jet can be dialed in quite satisfactorily. It just takes a linear lambda gauge, an assortment of jets and rods and careful note taking. The only downside relative to fuel injection is the lack of altitude compensation. I may get some argument over this last point, but there are many here who will agree that the q-jet is actually pretty darn good in terms of performance and economy.
thanks for this input. upon searching the internet further about ESC I found another GMC document (pdf) this one a presentation from a club event or something and mentions one of the forum members or maybe more that Im not familiar with.
http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Swartzendruber_Generic_TBI_SlidesNotes.pdf
it is a great presentation! Im mainly interested in the ESC part of it right now but there is alot of good info on the TBI side and yes it mentions that in fact there is an ESC HEI dist. for the Olds from a 307 car as you mention here.
this is the first Ive seen about this. Ive read about folks using knock sensors and alert systems for them and MSD manual timing control but not using the OE ESC to do it all automatically but apparently a few have done this.
the cool thing is, it can be used with an original Q-jet and it would help with altitudes slightly too just through the timing. not better than FI but better than no, or manual timing control.
but.. the 307 Oldsmobiles that had the ESCs, likely had the E.Q-jet carb too. I'll keep digging..
the pdf also mentions "John Wilsons DIY manual" anyone familiar with it and know where to obtain it?
Edit to add: ESC application list (sources for ESC Components) note Olds and Chev share same distributors https://www.yoyopart.com/oem/14306320/chevrolet-1103602.html#application
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Electronic QuadraJet and factory Electronic Spark Control
By: GMC2000 on Tue, 19 June 2018 00:48
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By: GMC2000 on Tue, 19 June 2018 22:34
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