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Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. [message #292682 is a reply to message #291212]

Mon, 21 December 2015 18:12

jhbridges

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We put a couple of Mitsubishi split systems in some temp studios a while back. In that service they worked well, hooking the precharged lines wasn't a problem. They might of spit a gram or two of refrigerant out at connecting, but held up well thereafter. I wouldn't use that kind of system in a coach for several reasons. They're relatively heavy. They're bulky, both outside unit and the evaporator. In a space limited environment (GMC) they take too much room. They aren't as tolerant of poor power as the RV units (Take a look inside one - there are several tricks played to make it tolerate sagging or blooming voltage without damage. There are also some you can't see.) They won't be as tolerant of vibration either. Their benefit is, they're quiet. They're probably a bit more efficient than the RV units, but that's not really a concern in RV use. My thought is, the time and effort would be better spent ducting one ot two of the roof mount units, which ought to shut it up considerably - noise being the only real drawback to them. A bit of thought and finagling should produce ductwork which fits in the ceiling of a GMC.. or at least is very wide and not greatly deep.

These coaches spread with only the weight of the roof itself over time. Increase that, they will spread more. With the walls out, I can see where one might take either of two approaches. Some curved stanchions in the walls - I'd do three to a side - could be carried through the floor directly to the coach frame. Alternatively, careful placement would allow straight ones to run up through the cabinetry at the wall. Put about a 4x4 inch block on top bandsawed or milled to match the roof curve. Then on the outside do the same with your 'patio' supports, and through - bolt these pads. Now you've got the load carried through to the frame and as an added benefit, you've support holding the roof up if you crossbolt the stanchion to the roof ribs. No more spread at all at this point.

The weight of the patio is to a degree going to affect the coach's handling, the amount of affect related to the weight of the stuff and how high above the roof you raise it. It'll look cool as hell, though.

--johnny

Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell

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		TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Sun, 29 November 2015 21:20
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Sun, 29 November 2015 21:21
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jimk on Sun, 29 November 2015 21:37
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: BobDunahugh on Mon, 14 December 2015 20:26
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 23:41
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: thesmith on Tue, 15 December 2015 07:54
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: sgltrac on Tue, 15 December 2015 09:12
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: BobDunahugh on Tue, 15 December 2015 10:04
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: A Hamilto on Sun, 29 November 2015 21:58
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: JShot on Mon, 30 November 2015 11:21
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: A Hamilto on Mon, 30 November 2015 11:30
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Kingsley Coach on Mon, 30 November 2015 13:23
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: k2gkk on Mon, 30 November 2015 14:10
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Dennis S on Mon, 30 November 2015 15:30
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Kingsley Coach on Mon, 30 November 2015 16:03
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Mon, 30 November 2015 15:22
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Gary Worobec on Mon, 30 November 2015 16:00
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Mon, 30 November 2015 17:06
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: James Hupy on Mon, 30 November 2015 16:52
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Mon, 30 November 2015 17:34
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 02:34
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Billy Massey on Mon, 14 December 2015 13:59
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 17:11
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: A Hamilto on Mon, 14 December 2015 19:32
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 23:29
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: GMC.LES on Mon, 14 December 2015 20:30
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Ken Henderson on Mon, 14 December 2015 21:30
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Thu, 17 December 2015 01:45
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Mon, 14 December 2015 16:25
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 22:24
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: James Hupy on Mon, 14 December 2015 23:16
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Tue, 15 December 2015 10:19
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Tue, 15 December 2015 17:24
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Carl S. on Tue, 01 December 2015 14:50
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 02:43
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: USAussie on Mon, 14 December 2015 05:53
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Kingsley Coach on Mon, 14 December 2015 06:40
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Sammy Williams on Mon, 14 December 2015 09:34
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 13:46
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Kingsley Coach on Mon, 14 December 2015 15:06
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Olly Schmidt on Mon, 14 December 2015 16:10
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: k2gkk on Mon, 14 December 2015 17:44
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: USAussie on Tue, 15 December 2015 00:50
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Kingsley Coach on Tue, 15 December 2015 07:49
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: A Hamilto on Tue, 15 December 2015 11:50
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: USAussie on Tue, 15 December 2015 16:02
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: A Hamilto on Tue, 15 December 2015 17:03
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: GMC.LES on Wed, 16 December 2015 08:23
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: James Hupy on Wed, 16 December 2015 09:33
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Wed, 16 December 2015 11:27
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Kingsley Coach on Wed, 16 December 2015 13:38
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Larry on Wed, 16 December 2015 16:14
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Wed, 16 December 2015 22:53
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Thu, 17 December 2015 01:46
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Wed, 16 December 2015 23:16
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Bob de Kruyff on Tue, 15 December 2015 21:19
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Jp Benson on Tue, 15 December 2015 21:26
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 02:49
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 02:56
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Bob de Kruyff on Mon, 14 December 2015 10:16
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Kingsley Coach on Mon, 14 December 2015 10:23
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Tue, 15 December 2015 10:04
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Tue, 15 December 2015 17:10
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Tue, 15 December 2015 19:16
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Tue, 15 December 2015 21:13
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Wed, 16 December 2015 08:00
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Thu, 17 December 2015 07:48
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Thu, 17 December 2015 10:24
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: 78403 on Fri, 18 December 2015 23:14
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: A Hamilto on Sat, 19 December 2015 00:01
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Sat, 19 December 2015 01:37
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Matt Colie on Sat, 19 December 2015 09:18
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: 78403 on Sat, 19 December 2015 15:03
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: USAussie on Sat, 19 December 2015 16:54
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Bob de Kruyff on Sat, 19 December 2015 20:00
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Bob de Kruyff on Sat, 19 December 2015 19:56
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Darryl Morris on Mon, 21 December 2015 04:30
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 21 December 2015 16:47
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: A Hamilto on Mon, 21 December 2015 17:36
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Jp Benson on Mon, 21 December 2015 18:07
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 21 December 2015 20:30
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Jp Benson on Tue, 22 December 2015 08:50
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 21 December 2015 20:31
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Sat, 19 December 2015 12:50
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Sat, 19 December 2015 20:42
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: GMC.LES on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Sun, 20 December 2015 18:52
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Sat, 19 December 2015 17:46
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Sun, 20 December 2015 07:49
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Sun, 20 December 2015 11:35
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: A Hamilto on Sun, 20 December 2015 14:29
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: USAussie on Sun, 20 December 2015 15:03
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: 77PBFinland on Sun, 20 December 2015 16:20
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 21 December 2015 01:05
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Mon, 21 December 2015 17:02
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 21 December 2015 17:31
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: jhbridges on Mon, 21 December 2015 18:12
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 21 December 2015 20:39

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