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Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. [message #292575 is a reply to message #292554] Sun, 20 December 2015 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Anonymous   United States
hi Les Burt[1],

I can apreciate your concern for your fellow man, however, this one is not under those same illusions but your post does point out some of the things that I might can help shed at least some light on.

Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]Your coach would never pass the required MOT inspection to get it legally licensed and driveable.


is that a legal determination and if so, doesnt that require a license? what makes you think it would be required and that all men are obligated?



Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
The biggest flag would be the Xed out VIN, which would require a legal document to explain when and why it was altered.

see above

Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
The next flag would be the '73 numbers not matching the '76 title.


the title numbers match, I wrote them myself. oh you mean legal title not lawful. nevermind


Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
Upon presenting your coach for inspection here, it would be seized by the law officials


seems to me that land up there is also a common law land, is it not? are you saying a man can take another mans property? surely not, but I guess if a man doesnt know he is a man and thinks he is something other than a man, I can see how that might happen, especially when the aggressor AKA "law official" doesnt know who he really is either (a man) happens all the time.


Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
and you would have a big fight to get it back. Any time or money you have invested into the coach might be lost if it was determined that the coach was indeed stolen and the affected insurance company wanted to take back the coach.


only a man can make that claim I see an insurance company (any corporation actually) as a dead corpse (corporation) unable to take the witness stand and make a verifiable claim (viva voce) a man or woman could act as an agent, sure but two wrongs dont make a right now does it? I seriously doubt they would want to cause a real man a harm, loss, or injury.

Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
Even if it was not stolen, the red tape required to clear the title due to the questionable VIN alteration would be a major PITA.

like I said, any man can make a claim but proving that is a whole nother level.


Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
I would assume that Quebec is not the only region of NA where there is a low tolerance for these sorts of VIN anomalies. I do know that even if you are just passing through Quebec as a tourist. If you get stopped by an overly curious cop that notices something unusual with your vehicle ID, there is a high risk of having it seized and submitted for investigation. You would have no legal recourse for any incurred expenses due to the inconvenience. The actual likelihood of this happening is very low, but it is possible.


lots of people assume and even presume lots of things dont they?

Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
For the above reasons, I would have only considered the coach as a parts vehicle. I would have never considered investing a red cent into rebuilding it for road service.


youre probably not alone in that consideration, prior to a significant amount of law study (and more to continue), I would have thought the same.

Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
For someone who is overly cautious about sharing their identity, you are much less concerned about the risks surrounding a questionable VIN that will raise flags with any MOT/DOT inspector. You have a lot of faith to think they will look the other way. Hopefully you are well prepared with documented facts to support your efforts.


I prefer knowledge instead of faith for these type of things. I dont need the facts brother, Im wont be the one making the claim. Ive got the truth though.


Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
If your coach did indeed leave the factory with an altered VIN, I would think that GM would have issued a document explaining/justifying the anomaly. I as the original purchasing customer would want such a document as proof that I am in the clear should the issue be disputed later on.


if something leaves the factory with a certain V.I.N. number then how would that be altered?

Les Burt[1
wrote on Sun, 20 December 2015 10:52]
I am extremely interested in your progress regarding these issues. I've had several close friends here in Quebec that were victims of VIN fraud. I've seen how the VINs were altered on their vehicles, and yours would a sloppy example in comparision.

Wishing you the best success with your coach.



I suppose anything is possible. please dont take anything I said personal because it aint meant that way, what we have is a massive worldwide identity crisis, I could tell you more but Im not sure you or the others here are ready.

thanks for the well wishes and all the best to you and yours also!





 
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