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Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. [message #292071 is a reply to message #292030]

Mon, 14 December 2015 13:59

Billy Massey

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You know exactly why you were banned. It served it's purpose by finally
getting your attention. Now if you'd only come out of your shroud we might
come to know you.

btw, I did fix your fake account so that it wouldn't become stuffed with
GMCnet traffic. You're welcome.

Billy Massey, always available.
On Dec 14, 2015 2:35 AM, "notavailable" wrote:

> hi everyone,
>
> would have posted a reply sooner but I was banned. when I asked what
> specific forum rule or "guideline" I had violated, I got no answer. seems
> it was
> on a whim due to some confusion on the email list so I think it was fixed
> so that my forum posts do not goto the email list now.
>
> hopefully that will be that and we can continue here.
>
> I have plenty more photos and info on the subject to share but first, I
> would like to respond to:
>
>
>
> bryant374 wrote on Mon, 30 November 2015 15:22
>> Hope I can shed some light and not confuse this further:
>>
>> Many things changed year to year, an identification format that was used
> in 1973 may have changed in 1974 or any other year.
>>
>> First, TZE 166V902114 is NOT an odd number, it is an invalid TZE number
> as well as not a 1976 model (TZE166).
>>
>> The #902114 is the order #, can also be found at the top line of the
> service parts sticker on the glove box & other paperwork if you are
> fortunate
>> enough to have the original build sheet.
>>
>> Dave Greenburg & I tried to make sense of much GMC information, order #s
> were all over the place and with no apparent order to the #s we
>> eventually gave up. We did determine the following:
>> 1973 & 74 order #s appear as 9xxxxx
>> 1975 to 78 " " " " Sxxxxx (first 100-200 in 1975 appear as
> S5xxxx all others S0xxxx)
>>
>> 1973 or 1974?
>> The highest 1973 TZE# I have listed is #3035 with a build date of
> 11-01-73
>> The lowest 1974 TZE I have listed is #0020 " " " " " 11-12-73
>> Since the glove box sticker is missing, the only way to tell for sure is
> the frame stamping found drivers side below the "sink" window (see my
>> album for a picture).
>>
>> VIN tags on the firewall:
>> 1973 & 74 tags were rectangular, higher than wide, the screws holding
> the faux firewall tag appears to use the original holes.
>> 1975 to 78 tags were also rectangular, but wider than high. All genuine
> tags should have the numbers embossed and mounted with special rivets.
>>
>> Why the replacement tag, don't know except why would someone do
> that....... unless to deceive.
>>
>> What year? My guess is, a very late 1973
>> My reason, just because ;^)
>> Bill
>
>
>
> thanks for those details, very interesting. however, I must very
> respectfully ask, what proof you have that this TZE number is "invalid"?
>
> I no doubt have proof that it is an odd number but you have made abold
> claim here, you may even be correct (where were you when I posted questions
> before aquiring it? ;) and as of now, the lawful title holder of this
> coach I feel I must point out that without proof of claim, it is only a mans
> assumption/belief and not a verifiable fact at all. just sayin'
>
> heres more on the numbers and dates:
>
> these have been enhanced to make the numbers easier to read.
> http://i.imgur.com/cxKJowJ.jpg
>
> this one has also been flipped upsidedown
> http://i.imgur.com/hPXE5y6.jpg
>
> another shot of the V.I.N. plate
> http://i.imgur.com/qDDLUtK.jpg
> see the seventh post (by emerystora)in this thread
> http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=263407&rid=4679#msg_263407
> for one
> confirmation that this type of plate was/is O.E.M.
>
> here is a shot of the back of the bath:
> http://i.imgur.com/o2i63RA.jpg
>
> the rest of these I will add captions to later as I have time.
> http://i.imgur.com/6qdvRkI.jpg
>
> http://i.imgur.com/y5R2xJu.jpg
>
> http://i.imgur.com/ErKwl8t.jpg
>
> http://i.imgur.com/EohPEP6.jpg
>
> this one shows another date marking on the underside of the bath floor:
> http://i.imgur.com/82qhMES.jpg
> that would have been right near this time: "GMC Motor Home assembly
> operations were shut down in early December 1973, the official reason was
> stated
> as "to bring inventories in line with retail sales." What started out at
> the beginning of the year as a great opportunity in a new market that at the
> time appeared almost limitless, suddenly had come to a screeching halt.
> The gasoline shortage had begun to seriously affect the RV industry."
> quoted
> from: http://www.gmcmi.com/basic-history/
>
> http://i.imgur.com/Rqty0n2.jpg
>
> more on the way.
>
>
>
>
>
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		TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Sun, 29 November 2015 21:20
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		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Mon, 30 November 2015 15:22
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Gary Worobec on Mon, 30 November 2015 16:00
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Mon, 30 November 2015 17:06
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: James Hupy on Mon, 30 November 2015 16:52
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Mon, 30 November 2015 17:34
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 02:34
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Billy Massey on Mon, 14 December 2015 13:59
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 17:11
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