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Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. [message #292030 is a reply to message #291255] |
Mon, 14 December 2015 02:34 |
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hi everyone,
would have posted a reply sooner but I was banned. when I asked what specific forum rule or "guideline" I had violated, I got no answer. seems it was on a whim due to some confusion on the email list so I think it was fixed so that my forum posts do not goto the email list now.
hopefully that will be that and we can continue here.
I have plenty more photos and info on the subject to share but first, I would like to respond to:
bryant374 wrote on Mon, 30 November 2015 15:22Hope I can shed some light and not confuse this further:
Many things changed year to year, an identification format that was used in 1973 may have changed in 1974 or any other year.
First, TZE 166V902114 is NOT an odd number, it is an invalid TZE number as well as not a 1976 model (TZE166).
The #902114 is the order #, can also be found at the top line of the service parts sticker on the glove box & other paperwork if you are fortunate enough to have the original build sheet.
Dave Greenburg & I tried to make sense of much GMC information, order #s were all over the place and with no apparent order to the #s we eventually gave up. We did determine the following:
1973 & 74 order #s appear as 9xxxxx
1975 to 78 " " " " Sxxxxx (first 100-200 in 1975 appear as S5xxxx all others S0xxxx)
1973 or 1974?
The highest 1973 TZE# I have listed is #3035 with a build date of 11-01-73
The lowest 1974 TZE I have listed is #0020 " " " " " 11-12-73
Since the glove box sticker is missing, the only way to tell for sure is the frame stamping found drivers side below the "sink" window (see my album for a picture).
VIN tags on the firewall:
1973 & 74 tags were rectangular, higher than wide, the screws holding the faux firewall tag appears to use the original holes.
1975 to 78 tags were also rectangular, but wider than high. All genuine tags should have the numbers embossed and mounted with special rivets.
Why the replacement tag, don't know except why would someone do that....... unless to deceive.
What year? My guess is, a very late 1973
My reason, just because ;^)
Bill
thanks for those details, very interesting. however, I must very respectfully ask, what proof you have that this TZE number is "invalid"?
I no doubt have proof that it is an odd number but you have made a bold, and possibly baseless claim here, although you may be correct? (where were you when I posted questions before acquiring it? and as of now, the lawful title holder of this coach I feel I must point out that without proof of claim, it is only a mans assumption/belief and not a verifiable fact at all. just sayin'
heres more on the numbers and dates:
these have been enhanced to make the numbers easier to read.
this one has also been flipped upsidedown. obviously, they were not trying to "hide" anything, else it would have been ground off instead of canceled out.
another shot of the V.I.N. plate. also obvious it has been there a long time, screw heads are same type as found all over and the plastic is warped from heat.
see the seventh post (by emerystora)in this thread http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=263407&rid=4679#msg_263407 for one confirmation that this type of plate was/is O.E.M.
here is a shot of the back of the bath:
the dash was spray painted black at some point but underneath that, it is army green. it appears to have been installed from the factory before the windshields were becasue there are some screws holding it in that can not be removed without removing the windshields. they need to be replaced aswell so the plan now is to wait until Im ready to paint it, remove them, paint it, then replace the windshields & gaskets then the dash.
the window behind the driver has been replaced with plexyglass and will be deleted altogether. I hope to be able to source one of those optional two piece kitchen windows that slide open also.
Ive read alot about the spray foam insulation that was used is highly flammable but this coach also has a water pump wiring malfunction/short. it, and all the wires in that bundle which were foamed completely over, were burned to a crisp melting all the wire coating and leaving nothing but copper strands. in some spots it was in direct contact with the foam and it the foam did not ignite. all the low voltage wiring will be new but most of the 120vac was fine.
this one shows another date marking on the underside of the bath floor:
that would have been right near this time: "GMC Motor Home assembly operations were shut down in early December 1973, the official reason was stated as "to bring inventories in line with retail sales." What started out at the beginning of the year as a great opportunity in a new market that at the time appeared almost limitless, suddenly had come to a screeching halt. The gasoline shortage had begun to seriously affect the RV industry." quoted from: http://www.gmcmi.com/basic-history/
more on the way.
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TZE166V902114 the odd number project.
By: Anonymous on Sun, 29 November 2015 21:20
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By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 02:34
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