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Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. [message #291262 is a reply to message #291255]

Mon, 30 November 2015 16:52

James Hupy

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Bill, another thought might be that the coach is much newer than that tag
would indicate, and has been swapped for an early (donor) coach vin tag in
order to not have to be smog tested as the later coaches have to be in
California. GMC did not attach the V.I.N. tags under the passenger side
engine hatch with screws. They used, and you confirm, special rivets.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Bill Bryant
wrote:

> Hope I can shed some light and not confuse this further:
>
> Many things changed year to year, an identification format that was used
> in 1973 may have changed in 1974 or any other year.
>
> First, TZE 166V902114 is NOT an odd number, it is an invalid TZE number as
> well as not a 1976 model (TZE166).
>
> The #902114 is the order #, can also be found at the top line of the
> service parts sticker on the glove box & other paperwork if you are
> fortunate
> enough to have the original build sheet.
>
> Dave Greenburg & I tried to make sense of much GMC information, order #s
> were all over the place and with no apparent order to the #s we eventually
> gave up. We did determine the following:
> 1973 & 74 order #s appear as 9xxxxx
> 1975 to 78 " " " " Sxxxxx (first 100-200 in 1975 appear as
> S5xxxx all others S0xxxx)
>
> 1973 or 1974?
> The highest 1973 TZE# I have listed is #3035 with a build date of 11-01-73
> The lowest 1974 TZE I have listed is #0020 " " " " " 11-12-73
> Since the glove box sticker is missing, the only way to tell for sure is
> the frame stamping found drivers side below the "sink" window (see my album
> for a picture).
>
> VIN tags on the firewall:
> 1973 & 74 tags were rectangular, higher than wide, the screws holding the
> faux firewall tag appears to use the original holes.
> 1975 to 78 tags were also rectangular, but wider than high. All genuine
> tags should have the numbers embossed and mounted with special rivets.
>
> Why the replacement tag, don't know except why would someone do
> that....... unless to deceive.
>
> What year? My guess is, a very late 1973
> My reason, just because ;^)
> Bill
>
>
> --
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> 1965 Corvette
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		TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Sun, 29 November 2015 21:20
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		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Mon, 30 November 2015 17:06
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: James Hupy on Mon, 30 November 2015 16:52
		Re: [GMCnet] TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: bryant374 on Mon, 30 November 2015 17:34
		Re: TZE166V902114 the odd number project. By: Anonymous on Mon, 14 December 2015 02:34
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