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Matt Colie
Messages: 8547 Registered: March 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan
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James Hupy wrote on Wed, 04 February 2015 13:44I worked in the end of the industry where the rubber hits the road. The end user of automotive products couldn't have cared less about UHC, CO, NOX, or any other three letter substitute excuse for the performance that they used to enjoy. They didn't want technical explanations, their only interest was in 0 to 60 times, smooth idle, no stalling when you stepped on the gas and unimportant stuff like that. Zone managers, technical support people who worked for the big 3, were busy covering their exposed rear ends with fancy excuses, and left techs like me to deal with irate customers who were getting 16 to 18 mpg with their 50's and 60's cars, only to buy the 70's and 80's cars that got 9 to 12 mpg and wouldn't pull the hat off your head.
Wouldn't go back to that era for any amount of money.
Your experiences may vary a bit.
Jim Hupy
Jim,
Our memories are a lot alike, but mine had hard data as a background.
In the closed discussions of the Michigan automotive community, there was a lot of strange talk. First issue was that the original EPA were all in exhaust composition as percent of concentration. (They didn't yet have dilution tunnels so grams per mile wasn't even possible - yet.) So, go with a big engine and tune it for minimum smoke.
One of the great jokes on the car buying public was that the best way to meet the standards was to take a good engine and make it run like crap. All three manufactures had to go to catalysts by late '70s. One of the good ways to make them work was to setup a V-engine so one bank ran rich and the other ran lean. The cat would stay lit across a wide range and O2 sensor would average what it saw and keep it running. These were the low teens (MPG) Novas and Fairlanes.
I to am glad that era has passed.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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