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As the father of a child diagnosed with autism, the incorrect use of certain words can and does catch my attention. In this particular case, I understood what both Jared and Matt said initially and was not offended, but I can and will stand up when certain words are used in a potentially discriminatory or harmful manner towards the mentally challenged.

Words like "retard" may carry different meanings to different people. My teenage daughters have introduced me to a multitude of commonly misused words. I have done my best at informing them that some older folk and even those of different ethnic origin may misunderstand their use of those words. They generally understand and "adjust" their word usage to best match the group they are communicating with, out of respect.

On the web, we often write comments with a specific message in mind, only to have someone misunderstand what we meant to say. That can be one of the joys of language. Word selection can emphasize or minimize that effect, and we all should keep that in mind when addressing a public forum.




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1975 Eleganza 26ft
A work in Progress



On Sep 9, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Jared wrote:

Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 09 September 2014 14:05
> lotsofspareparts wrote on Tue, 09 September 2014 12:21
>> Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 09 September 2014 05:56
>>> lotsofspareparts wrote on Mon, 08 September 2014 19:35
>>>> That video was retarded. The Fire Marshall was retarded, the news anchors were retarded, the whole thing was retarded.
>>>> I don't believe you would all of a sudden have a catastrophic leak into the interior of a vehicle that the fuel air mixture would be
>>>> correct at the exact second you were lighting a cigarette..... retarded.
>>>>
>>>> Stupid scare tactic.
>>>>
>>>> My opinion of course.
>>>>
>>>> Jared
>>>
>>> Jared,
>>>
>>> You are being very unfair to the mentally challenged folks. Most of them know when to keep their mouths closed.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>
>> That is a pretty retarded statement to me.
>> For one you are taking the word "retarded" and applying it to someone who is "mentally challenged", that is pretty sick in my mind.
>> I have never looked at or spoke to someone who was physically and or mentally challenged and thought they were retarded. That is cruel.
>> Retarded is a word that gets applied to everyone at one point in time. Every morning when I climb out of the shower I look at my arm and think
>> "that tattoo is retarded".
>> We all make retarded moves at one point or another and if I ever heard someone call someone who was mentally challenged a retard in front of
>> me.... we would have words!!
>> Think before you post Matt, don't make me out to be the bad guy when you can apparently look at someone who is disabled and think they are
>> retarded.
>>
>> Nuff Said!!
>>
>> Jared
>
> Jared,
> Retarded means held back. That is what it means.
> Now, Can you tell me how one holds back a Video?? (maybe runs it at 28FPS?)
> When You Use it to label an individual (which you did), and that individual is not physically restrained then the only thing left is to assume
> that you were indicating that you believed that there individuals were either held mentally back by choice or by circumstances beyond their personal
> control.
>
> As I once spent a lot of personal time working with persons that in the day were labeled as "retarded", they would now be called mentally
> challenged. I developed an understanding of the true meaning of the situation. A number of said individuals were more capable of rational thinking
> than that displayed those in the clip. More than that, most had at least the understanding to not speak when he did not understand what was
> happening.
>
> Ego, I still believe you were being unfair.
>
> I strongly suggest that you search for another word to replace your use of "retarded" in such situations. Otherwise you will be misunderstood or
> taken as having at least a poor vocabulary.
>
> Matt


Matt take it how you want, it is no longer PC to consider any one with a mental or physical handicap "retarded". I never have used that word to
describe someone with any sort of limitation. If you choose to take it as a derogatory reference to someone with Downs, MS, CP, Parapalegic, then you
go ahead and take it that way..... which is overly PC. I use that word and so do many others to describe someone who has done or said something
stupid. Where I work, if someone makes a mistake and you call them a retard, they will laugh. If you call them stupid, you might get punched.

Strongly suggest all you want, it is my word and I will use it if it apropos.

I'm sure everyone else who read my previous post knew exactly what I was getting at, meaning they didn't take it the wrong way.

Jared

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