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Sat, 19 April 2014 11:17

Bob de Kruyff

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JohnL455 wrote on Sat, 19 April 2014 09:56

Bob I agree with the above except your last sentence. It has everything to do with whether it is used for commercial or not. I have a B CDL air-brake endorsement. Saddly the newer CDL laws didn't simplify things. If you rent an under 16k truck to move your household you don't need a CDL but probably do need to stop at the chicken coops. That is up to the coop guys to decide what All Trucks means at that hour. Same truck used for commerce needs a CDL of at least that lower weight class along with log books and pre trip inspection records. A medical card must also be carried. Random drug test records must be kept on file at the home terminal in each driver folder subject to inspection with no notice. Log books must be kept if your daily route takes you more than 100 miles from your home terminal. That can be tough to prove on traffic stop so best to keep them and note "local multiple stops" in the notes. If you were to use your GMC to shuttle people in a for hire situation you would need a CDL with livery endorsement. Log and medical and drug rules apply. I sat through some Paclease seminars with State inspectors and those are some of the key points I took away. Many a Ryder truck has been shut down on the spot when they found 2 non CDL roadies up front and band equipment in back (commercial) and the truck will not move until a current CDL driver can be brought in to move it. Don't haul anything than can be mistaken for commercial without some documentation with your under 16k non CDL truck.

John, I can't recall what I wrote but I think we are on the same page. If you drive a truck for ocassional moving of household goods, you do not need a CDL. In our case, when a customer rents our trucks, they do not fall under any FMCSA rules including CDL's and whether you need to stop at weigh stations. If our own employees use the same truck even for repair or shuttling purposes, they fall under FMCSA requirements and may need a CDL. The CDL requirements were recently re-written and are extremely confusing.

Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ

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