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Thanks Dwayne,
We also enjoyed meeting with you and Sharon. You haven't dashed my hopes. And yes a big restoration is certainly not for everyone. I took this project on fully knowing it was going to be several years so I did not set any objectives time-wise. My only goal is to build it right and build it once. Being in the midst of some major house & garage renovations, raising a family, and working full time just doesn't leave much time or $$ for other projects, so our coach rebuild has been put on hold more than once. We have planned to tackle the frame work this summer with the intention of having a rolling coach, but again it depends on time and circumstances. One thing I am fortunate to have is lots of ambition and decent skills, the rest will happen with time.

Les Burt
Montreal
1975 Eleganza 26ft
A work in Progress



On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:26 PM, dwayne jacobson <dwayne.jacobson@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Les;
It really was a pleasure meeting you and your wife while we headed across
Canada. Also a Delight to go to your place and see your GMC project. I
learned a valuable lesson from you that I may not of fully realized had I
not met you. The Lesson for me is never take on a total restoration
project due to the lack of automotive repair experience.
Not to dash your hope in getting your coach on the road to join in the fun,
a year previous I had visited another ambitious GMC restoration Guru -
Steve Southworth and viewed his dismantled Coach and the joy of knowing 3
years later he is joining us on the Route 66 Rolling Rally.

So I wish you well as you proceed to finish your Coach.

Best regards
Dwayne and Sharon Jacobson
77 Kingsley


> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Les Burt <gmc.les@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The confrontational individuals do not bother me that much, but it does
> affect the atmosphere of this group. More and more we are seeing that some
> members are hesitant to post for fear of ridicule or just to generally
> avoid confrontation. That is a situation that we all collectively need to
> focus on and find some way to improve. We need all the positive
> contribution and participation possible if we want to survive here. We all
> loose if we stop providing valuable info just because one individual
> disagrees and becomes confrontational over it.
>
> I learned a big lesson this past week or so. Hopefully I won't repeat my
> mistakes.
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> 1975 Eleganza 26ft
> A work in Progress
>
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:44 PM, "Robert Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>
> Les,
>
> Just don't let the confrontational individuals suck you into arguments any
> more; consider the source and remember; "sticks and
> stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me!" ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Les Burt
>
>> On Mar 31, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Tony <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anyways, I treat some post or posters like I do unwanted commercials. I
> ignore them and change the station.
>> Life is way too short. Why sweat the small stuff.
>
> That appears to be what many people do here, and although it is not the
> best way, it works. The downside is that blocking a specific
> person or a specific thread means we may be missing some valuable info
> that was shared, even though we may not like the person it
> comes from.
>
> After spending the weekend thinking over the most recent events that
> started this thread, I feel I need to express a concern that I
> have over the future of this group.
>
> I have yet to encounter a member here that hasn't had a genuine need for
> help, or provided some help at some point. We all deserve
> the right to participate in this group, but we also deserve the right to
> do so in a civil environment. It is up to all of us to make
> sure that happens, but to do so means we need to understand and follow
> some basic rules. I haven't gone looking for GMCnet rules on
> member conduct and behavior etc, so I do not know if any actually exist.
> If they do exist, perhaps inviting everyone to read and
> familiarize themselves with those rules would go a long way towards a
> friendlier environment here. If there are no such rules in
> writing, should we not develop some?
>
> Since I became a member here only a few years ago, discussions have been
> more or less self regulating. This works in most cases, but
> has not in others. I am aware of the expulsion of one individual who
> caused a ruckus even though he was a big contributor to the
> group. I am also aware of several valuable contributors that have left
> because they were fed up with some of the uncontrolled
> "snarkiness" and general unfriendly remarks directed at some of our
> members.
>
> Do we continue as we always have and risk loosing more very knowledgeable
> members? Or do we make the rules more clear to those who
> feel the need to be confrontational, with the risk of loosing their
> valuable input? We need to ask ourselves as a group what we
> value more?
>
> Les Burt
>
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