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Wed, 02 April 2014 19:11

GMC.LES

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The confrontational individuals do not bother me that much, but it does affect the atmosphere of this group. More and more we are seeing that some members are hesitant to post for fear of ridicule or just to generally avoid confrontation. That is a situation that we all collectively need to focus on and find some way to improve. We need all the positive contribution and participation possible if we want to survive here. We all loose if we stop providing valuable info just because one individual disagrees and becomes confrontational over it.

I learned a big lesson this past week or so. Hopefully I won't repeat my mistakes.

Les Burt
Montreal
1975 Eleganza 26ft
A work in Progress

On Apr 2, 2014, at 7:44 PM, "Robert Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

Les,

Just don't let the confrontational individuals suck you into arguments any more; consider the source and remember; "sticks and
stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me!" ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Burt

> On Mar 31, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Tony <Ultravanman248@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Anyways, I treat some post or posters like I do unwanted commercials. I ignore them and change the station.
> Life is way too short. Why sweat the small stuff.

That appears to be what many people do here, and although it is not the best way, it works. The downside is that blocking a specific
person or a specific thread means we may be missing some valuable info that was shared, even though we may not like the person it
comes from.

After spending the weekend thinking over the most recent events that started this thread, I feel I need to express a concern that I
have over the future of this group.

I have yet to encounter a member here that hasn't had a genuine need for help, or provided some help at some point. We all deserve
the right to participate in this group, but we also deserve the right to do so in a civil environment. It is up to all of us to make
sure that happens, but to do so means we need to understand and follow some basic rules. I haven't gone looking for GMCnet rules on
member conduct and behavior etc, so I do not know if any actually exist. If they do exist, perhaps inviting everyone to read and
familiarize themselves with those rules would go a long way towards a friendlier environment here. If there are no such rules in
writing, should we not develop some?

Since I became a member here only a few years ago, discussions have been more or less self regulating. This works in most cases, but
has not in others. I am aware of the expulsion of one individual who caused a ruckus even though he was a big contributor to the
group. I am also aware of several valuable contributors that have left because they were fed up with some of the uncontrolled
"snarkiness" and general unfriendly remarks directed at some of our members.

Do we continue as we always have and risk loosing more very knowledgeable members? Or do we make the rules more clear to those who
feel the need to be confrontational, with the risk of loosing their valuable input? We need to ask ourselves as a group what we
value more?

Les Burt

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