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Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH [message #245279 is a reply to message #245257]

Wed, 26 March 2014 21:35

Bob de Kruyff

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mikethebike wrote on Wed, 26 March 2014 18:42

Same thing they did with the Olds diesel. We were going to buy a 1980 Caprice diesel until I talked with my wifes uncle who sold Buicks (300-600 per year and poor mouthed all the way to the bank) in Charleston and to Dan Perron who had been the top wrench at Hal Warren Chevy before quitting to race full time. Both said the $$$$ men didn't allow enough engineering to be done to make the 350 Olds a diesel According to them all they had was enough money to install the high compression heads and injection and get the thing past EPA. By 1982/3 the problems were corrected but the damage was done. My best friend overf the past 40 years had an 83 Eldorado diesel that he put 350,000 miles with no more than a fuel pump.

Matt Colie wrote on Wed, 26 March 2014 18:57

ljdavick wrote on Tue, 25 March 2014 21:35

<snip>
Of course there is the Vega...

Larry Davick

Larry,

You are only half right.

Most people don't know that the GM Bean counters killed the Vega by not letting the known issues be that were identified during the normal product validation be corrected as the vehicle was intended only as a price leader for first time buyers. The result was it was a loser for last time buyers.

Matt

The bean counter story will probably never go away. Nor will the stories of aliens in Roswell.

Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ

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		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Mr ERFisher on Mon, 17 March 2014 13:46
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