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Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH [message #244891 is a reply to message #244867]

Mon, 24 March 2014 19:16

Bob de Kruyff

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Dave Mumert wrote on Mon, 24 March 2014 11:19

HI All

> or calling ABS braking Anti-Lock-brakes when in fact ABS is an abbreviation for Anti-BLOCK-System

The folks who mandated ABS believe ABS means Antilock Braking System.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/documents/fhwa-abs.pdf

I can't believe I am responding to this.

I'm a bit confused about this discussion which started out as, or morphed to, liability concerns. Some of those fanning the
liability flames are the ones who are willing to accept the one ton front end upgrade. I don't understand what is so much more
frightening about better rear brakes as opposed to hacking the end off your control arm and welding on some plates so you can run a
different knuckle.

I am not concerned about the safety or reliability of the one ton upgrade. I think it is superior you the OEM system, but if your
front wheel breaks off for any reason the bottom feeding lawyers will have a field day because of the modification.

Dave Mumert
'76 Eleganza II
Alberta, CA

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Dave, it really is an interesting issue. I'm fine with upgrades and selectively do them myself. What I struggle with is the civil liability process that tries to find someone with money and even a glimpse of liability. You can imagine what I see in my current job that is downright incredibly unfair.

Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ

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		[GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Mr ERFisher on Sun, 16 March 2014 06:34
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Matt Colie on Sun, 16 March 2014 09:09
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Mr ERFisher on Sun, 16 March 2014 09:28
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Jim Galbavy on Sun, 16 March 2014 16:05
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		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Jim Galbavy on Sun, 16 March 2014 19:35
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: mikethebike on Sun, 16 March 2014 20:16
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: corleyw on Mon, 17 March 2014 08:44
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: A Hamilto on Mon, 17 March 2014 09:50
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Jim Galbavy on Mon, 17 March 2014 10:18
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Keith V on Mon, 17 March 2014 12:50
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Jim Galbavy on Mon, 17 March 2014 12:58
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: mikethebike on Mon, 17 March 2014 13:32
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Jim Galbavy on Mon, 17 March 2014 13:40
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: mikethebike on Mon, 17 March 2014 15:29
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Mr ERFisher on Mon, 17 March 2014 13:46
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: k2gkk on Mon, 17 March 2014 14:14
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: k2gkk on Mon, 17 March 2014 14:19
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Jim Galbavy on Mon, 17 March 2014 14:56
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Bob de Kruyff on Mon, 17 March 2014 21:21
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: mikethebike on Tue, 18 March 2014 09:44
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: A Hamilto on Tue, 18 March 2014 10:13
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: mikethebike on Tue, 18 March 2014 19:21
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Mr ERFisher on Wed, 19 March 2014 02:43
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Bob de Kruyff on Mon, 17 March 2014 21:13
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: emerystora on Thu, 20 March 2014 16:51
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Keith V on Thu, 20 March 2014 17:55
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Mr ERFisher on Thu, 20 March 2014 17:59
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Jim Galbavy on Thu, 20 March 2014 18:28
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Jim Galbavy on Thu, 20 March 2014 23:04
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: GMC_LES on Mon, 17 March 2014 16:14
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: kelvin on Mon, 17 March 2014 16:51
		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: Keith V on Mon, 17 March 2014 17:12
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		Re: [GMCnet] Supplemental brake systems, kenH By: mikethebike on Thu, 20 March 2014 19:43
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