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Re: [GMCnet] Reviving the Cad 500 [message #165141 is a reply to message #165075] Tue, 03 April 2012 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Carleton Douglas[1] is currently offline  Carleton Douglas[1]   United States
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Ken you need to make a run stand and prove what is going on with the
engine, taking it in and out is to had on old guys like us. Manny can
give you some info on how he make his. That is all that I can think
of, in and out that hurts me thinking about it.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Les,
>
> The only thing unique about the front of my engine is the pair of
> serpentine belts.  No one I've talked to, including myself, thinks there's
> any possibility of their causing axial loads on the crank.  There were NO
> signs of radial damage to the front bearing as I'd expect if there were a
> problem.  There's no reason the serpentine belts should cause more problem
> than the V-belts.  Also, with the excess end play, I can literally move the
> crank fore and aft by hand, even with the belts in place.
>
> As for oil starvation, that's unlikely:  The #3 journal (where the thrust
> is taken on the Cad) showed no different wear than any of the others --
> just that minor amount caused by the circulating debris.
>
> Today I talked to Marty at Maximum Torque Specialists.  He thinks the
> torque converter is the cause of my problems; he claims the housing CAN
> expand enough to take up my 0.125" clearance.  I'm still skeptical, but
> with nothing else to blame, I'm going to replace the TC with the best one I
> can find -- any suggestions?  I'll also have the builder of this one tear
> it down to see if they can find anything wrong with it.
>
> After I drop the engine tomorrow, I'll be looking for any signs of
> interference that I may have missed before.  The general assumption, in the
> transmission industry at least, seems to be that an expanded TC would
> immediately cause massive damage to the transmission -- I saw NO signs of
> any damage when I had the transmission partially disassembled to replace
> the input bushing.  Maybe the TH-425 is especially rugged in that area
> because of the chain drive?
>
> Ideas welcomed.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Les Burt wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>> Is there any possibility that something running off the front of the crank
>> is pulling it forward with enough force to load the thrust bearing?
>>
>> Another very long shot might be a defect in the block oiling passages that
>> is causing a restricted oil flow to the main journal with the thrust faces.
>> Increasing oil flow to the thrust face by chamfering the bearing shell
>> might actually have a negative effect if the oil flow was already on the
>> low side. You'll find out for sure on this tear down as the bearing shell
>> surfaces for the main with the thrust faces and the rods fed off that main
>> should show signs of oil starvation if this is the case. I doubt this would
>> be your situation though.
>>
>>
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