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Re: [GMCnet] Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? [message #116578 is a reply to message #116566]

Fri, 25 February 2011 20:38

mike miller

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Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 25 February 2011 17:10

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I laude your efforts in finding this engine but from where I sit adapting it
to the GMC is in the too hard / too costly basket. ...

I was thinking the same thing. The VW is a "new to the market" vehicle with a base price of $138K. I do not think you find many in the junkyard very soon... if ever. I wonder how much they would charge for a crate engine... if they ever offer one.

This VW v10 twin turbo diesel engine makes my "closest" thought look cheap at $38k.

Banks Twin-Turbo V8
<http://bankspower.com/techarticles/show/4-twin-turbo-v8-facts-of-life->

This is a twin turbo Chevy small block. The price above is a completely new motor made with high performance parts. It can be pushed to well over 1000hp! I do not think "we" would need "all" of the high performance (high dollar) parts, but if someone who knew exactly what to look for, the cost might be made "closer to expectable."

Small block Chevys have been being mated to TH425/325 transmissions for many engine swaps. So this is not a totally new route. It is 29" from bellhousing to the front of the motor, 35" wide at the turbos, much less behind and under them and most important, 22.25' from crank centerline to the top of the motor.

In order to mate to our transmission, you would need to use a oil pan designed for a V8 into S10 Chevy 4x4 conversion, a remote oil filter adapter and a BPO to Chevy transmission adapter plate. (All off the shelf parts.) Engine mounts might have to be fabricated.

With some programing of the engine controls, and variable waste gates (variable boost) the engine should be able to adapt to different fuels and get some good mileage improvements. Even so, I doubt even this swap would ever make sense... dollars and cents wise anyway.

Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo' http://m000035.blogspot.com

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		Gas Prices- At What Point Do You Park It? By: philipswanson on Thu, 24 February 2011 09:16
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