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Tue, 14 September 2010 10:10  |
KB
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We just got back to San Jose with our "new" '75 Eleganza II.
Other than a stripped out windshield wiper and too much rain on
the road, it went well. Kinda cool having two of them to compare.
Sure makes the 23' look smaller!
Anyway, I find that on the '73 coach, all the cabinets are solid lightweight plywood
with a fake wood grain veneer, and the door and drawer fronts are a very
light construction of foam core and wood covered by laminate.
Drawer sides are wood, but stapled together.
The '75 on the other hand, has all particle board cabinets and door/drawer fronts.
Drawers are dovetailed wood.
So my question (probably for Dave G.): when did they change
over to particle board?? Was that a 1975 change when they
decided to go "upscale" on the cabinetry? I figure the particle
board adds a bunch of weight (though maybe insignificant in such a big vehicle).
thanks,
Karen
1973 23' Patience Tester
1975 26' Insanity Plea
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| Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history? [message #99719 is a reply to message #99718] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 10:23  |
Oldngray
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Karen, cannot answer your question however, my Edgemonte (76) had all Flake board Cabinets, including the Doors. The only wood was the Front Frames. I removed all of mine and rebuilt using 1/2 inch Plywood for the Cabinets and wood/plywood doors.
I have seen solid wood cabinets/doors in the Royale and a El 2.
Perhaps it was a Option.
Richard MacDonald
Punta Gorda, Florida
Sold our TZE April 2015
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| Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history? [message #99730 is a reply to message #99718] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 10:58 |
GMC Cruse
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In 1975, "Assembly of interiors at Gemini was discontinued and all of the interior up fitting was brought in house at another Pontiac, Michigan plant. Grand Rapids Furniture Co. was now building the interior modules, and dovetail joints replaced glue and staples."
Mike K.
'75 PB
Southeast Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history? [message #99733 is a reply to message #99718] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 10:50 |
rallymaster
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That's true, removing the double cabinets made of particle board is a
two-man job. Well, two-person, anyway.
Aluminum cabinets are greaaat! Just ask the folks who have them.
Unfortunately, they were rather expensive, and Darren Paget, who sold
them, left the GMC community and didn't appoint a successor to his
business. I don't know if he built them himself or had them manufactured
to his order in Canada.
RonC
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:22:57 -0700 KRDietz <krdietz@gmail.com> writes:
> KB wrote:
<SNIP>
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> I've pulled particle board cabinets out of a couple houses. Those
> suckers are heavy. I haven't pulled any out of a GMC yet. I can
> pull
> the cabinets out of my '73 by myself. I'm guessing that the
> particle
> board version would be a two-man job.
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> Putting all that weight up high could actually have an effect on
> handling. Replacing the cabinets with an aluminum version would
> probably have a noticeable effect on handling.
>
> Kelvin
> '73 23' with plywood and foam cabinets...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history? [message #99753 is a reply to message #99720] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 14:31 |
ejuk8em
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We have most of the cabinetry out of our '73 and indeed it is 1/2" plywood with some sort of vinyl/plastic simulated wood grain on the exterior faces. I can certainly re-glue/re-staple the basic framework back together. However, does anyone know a good way to recover the exterior faces on these? The vinyl covering has gotten nicked, scratched, and worn off in quite a few places. Short of rebuilding from scratch...
Thanks!
Lyle
Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
'73 Pineapple Yellow Sequoia
Pawnee, IL 62558
Pawnee Pride - Live It!
--- On Tue, 9/14/10, KRDietz <krdietz@gmail.com> wrote:
From: KRDietz <krdietz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history?
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 10:22 AM
KB wrote:
> Anyway, I find that on the '73 coach, all the cabinets are solid lightweight plywood
> with a fake wood grain veneer, and the door and drawer fronts are a very
> light construction of foam core and wood covered by laminate.
> Drawer sides are wood, but stapled together.
>
Not exactly "cabinetry" at it's finest but light is good. I thought
about replacing the doors on my '73 but couldn't figure out a way to do
it lighter.
> The '75 on the other hand, has all particle board cabinets and door/drawer fronts.
> Drawers are dovetailed wood.
>
> So my question (probably for Dave G.): when did they change
> over to particle board?? Was that a 1975 change when they
> decided to go "upscale" on the cabinetry? I figure the particle
> board adds a bunch of weight (though maybe insignificant in such a big vehicle).
>
I've pulled particle board cabinets out of a couple houses. Those
suckers are heavy. I haven't pulled any out of a GMC yet. I can pull
the cabinets out of my '73 by myself. I'm guessing that the particle
board version would be a two-man job.
Putting all that weight up high could actually have an effect on
handling. Replacing the cabinets with an aluminum version would
probably have a noticeable effect on handling.
Kelvin
'73 23' with plywood and foam cabinets...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history? [message #99759 is a reply to message #99718] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 15:16 |
KB
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> We have most of the cabinetry out of our '73 and indeed?it is?1/2"?plywood with some sort of vinyl/plastic simulated wood grain on the exterior faces. I can certainly re-glue/re-staple the basic framework back together. However, does anyone know a good way to recover the exterior faces on these? The vinyl covering has gotten nicked, scratched, and worn off in quite a few places. Short of rebuilding from scratch...
I've seen a number of them painted and it looks like a good solution.
Wish I'd thought of that before dismantling the '73's cabinets...
Karen
1973 23' Patience Tester
1975 26' Insanity Plea
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| Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history? [message #99762 is a reply to message #99753] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 15:30 |
Ken Henderson
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Lyle,
Rebuild from scratch.
When I bought the GMC in '98, my intention was to drive it to Alaska and, if
someone wanted it, sell it and fly home. Otherwise, I expected to sell it
upon our return and continue to use our 1997 40' SOB.
With that plan in mind, despite the fact that I gutted it, I reused much of
the material, including all the cabinet doors, and didn't do the quality
work I'd have done to a "keeper".
By the time we got done with the refurbishment and made the trip to Alaska &
back, via Bean Station, we'd been inducted into this darned cult. We
haven't yet been able to escape, the SOB's long gone, and we are still stuck
with the less-than-I'd-like materials and craftsmanship in the GMC.
Don't paint yourself into a similar corner.
JMHO,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Lyle A. Rigdon <ejuk8em@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We have most of the cabinetry out of our '73 and indeed it is 1/2" plywood
> with some sort of vinyl/plastic simulated wood grain on the exterior faces.
> I can certainly re-glue/re-staple the basic framework back together.
> However, does anyone know a good way to recover the exterior faces on these?
> The vinyl covering has gotten nicked, scratched, and worn off in quite a few
> places. Short of rebuilding from scratch...
> Thanks!
> Lyle
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76 X-Birchaven
76 X-Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history? [message #99770 is a reply to message #99762] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 16:24 |
ejuk8em
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Hmmmm.... sounds like good advice!
Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
'73 Pineapple Yellow Sequoia
Pawnee, IL 62558
Pawnee Pride - Live It!
--- On Tue, 9/14/10, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history?
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 3:30 PM
Lyle,
Rebuild from scratch.
When I bought the GMC in '98, my intention was to drive it to Alaska and, if
someone wanted it, sell it and fly home. Otherwise, I expected to sell it
upon our return and continue to use our 1997 40' SOB.
With that plan in mind, despite the fact that I gutted it, I reused much of
the material, including all the cabinet doors, and didn't do the quality
work I'd have done to a "keeper".
By the time we got done with the refurbishment and made the trip to Alaska &
back, via Bean Station, we'd been inducted into this darned cult. We
haven't yet been able to escape, the SOB's long gone, and we are still stuck
with the less-than-I'd-like materials and craftsmanship in the GMC.
Don't paint yourself into a similar corner.
JMHO,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Lyle A. Rigdon <ejuk8em@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We have most of the cabinetry out of our '73 and indeed it is 1/2" plywood
> with some sort of vinyl/plastic simulated wood grain on the exterior faces.
> I can certainly re-glue/re-staple the basic framework back together.
> However, does anyone know a good way to recover the exterior faces on these?
> The vinyl covering has gotten nicked, scratched, and worn off in quite a few
> places. Short of rebuilding from scratch...
> Thanks!
> Lyle
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| Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet construction history? [message #99801 is a reply to message #99759] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 19:43 |
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| KB wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 15:16 |
> We have most of the cabinetry out of our '73 and indeed?it is?1/2"?plywood with some sort of vinyl/plastic simulated wood grain on the exterior faces. I can certainly re-glue/re-staple the basic framework back together. However, does anyone know a good way to recover the exterior faces on these? The vinyl covering has gotten nicked, scratched, and worn off in quite a few places. Short of rebuilding from scratch...
I've seen a number of them painted and it looks like a good solution.
Wish I'd thought of that before dismantling the '73's cabinets...
Karen
1973 23' Patience Tester
1975 26' Insanity Plea
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The drawer fronts and hinged doors in our galley are vinyl material over (?) but the drawer fronts on our closet module are formica over partilce board.
And, if anyone is discarding their old 73/74 drawer fronts with the dark pecan formica laminate -- I need at least one, please.
Thanks,
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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