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Mon, 13 September 2010 08:53  |
Richard Lister
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Hi folks. Am I right in thinking that if you have Thorley headers, you can't get at your plastic transmission governor without taking the headers off...?
If there is a way, I'd love to hear about it.
I need a new lower speedo cable and plastic speedo drive as one killed the other. There is no problem with the governor, but I wanted to check it while I was down there and get a spare. Are they all the same or do I need to look at it before I order the spare?
Cheers all
Richard, 78 Kingsley, Boston
http://thegmcproject.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...? [message #99562 is a reply to message #99553] |
Mon, 13 September 2010 09:29  |
Ken Henderson
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Richard,
If the governor is unmodified, you will indeed have to remove the header
(but not iron manifold). While you've got the governor out, you may want to
remove its cover by grinding away the outer edge where the dome is crimped
to the base. With the dome loose, I'm told, on good authority, that the
governor can be R&R'd by unclipping the top bail, removing the dome, and
then the governor. To reseal the dome, run a small bead of RTV around the
joint before re-clipping the bail.
Perhaps that will save you a header R&R in the future.
My spare's got a "removable dome".
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Richard, you will need to drop that header. It is not a time consuming
> thing, at least on mine. Once we had it loose, I loosened the band clamp and
> slid it off the pipe and out of the way. Those band clamps are worth the
> money when the need arises to remove one.
> Dan
> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...? [message #99563 is a reply to message #99562] |
Mon, 13 September 2010 09:45 |
Ray Erspamer
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Where can you get replacement or a "spare" governor?? Thanks
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:29:17
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...?
Richard,
If the governor is unmodified, you will indeed have to remove the header
(but not iron manifold). While you've got the governor out, you may want to
remove its cover by grinding away the outer edge where the dome is crimped
to the base. With the dome loose, I'm told, on good authority, that the
governor can be R&R'd by unclipping the top bail, removing the dome, and
then the governor. To reseal the dome, run a small bead of RTV around the
joint before re-clipping the bail.
Perhaps that will save you a header R&R in the future.
My spare's got a "removable dome".
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Richard, you will need to drop that header. It is not a time consuming
> thing, at least on mine. Once we had it loose, I loosened the band clamp and
> slid it off the pipe and out of the way. Those band clamps are worth the
> money when the need arises to remove one.
> Dan
> --
>
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78 GMC Royale Center Kitchen
403, 3.70 Final Drive
Holley Sniper Quadrajet EFI System,
Holley Hyperspark Ignition System
414-484-9431
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| Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...? [message #99569 is a reply to message #99563] |
Mon, 13 September 2010 10:51 |
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| Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 09:45 |
Where can you get replacement or a "spare" governor?? Thanks
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:29:17
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...?
Richard,
If the governor is unmodified, you will indeed have to remove the header
(but not iron manifold). While you've got the governor out, you may want to
remove its cover by grinding away the outer edge where the dome is crimped
to the base. With the dome loose, I'm told, on good authority, that the
governor can be R&R'd by unclipping the top bail, removing the dome, and
then the governor. To reseal the dome, run a small bead of RTV around the
joint before re-clipping the bail.
Perhaps that will save you a header R&R in the future.
My spare's got a "removable dome".
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Richard, you will need to drop that header. It is not a time consuming
> thing, at least on mine. Once we had it loose, I loosened the band clamp and
> slid it off the pipe and out of the way. Those band clamps are worth the
> money when the need arises to remove one.
> Dan
> --
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73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...? [message #99571 is a reply to message #99563] |
Mon, 13 September 2010 10:54 |
Dennis S
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| Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 09:45 |
Where can you get replacement or a "spare" governor?? Thanks
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Ray,
If you are concerned about the governor -- you might oonsider buying a spare drive gear. It seems to be the part that most often fails. JimK has them in stock. I understand they are not always easy to find locally.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...? [message #99579 is a reply to message #99563] |
Mon, 13 September 2010 11:12 |
philipswanson
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| Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 09:45 |
Where can you get replacement or a "spare" governor?? Thanks
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Not just the drive gear goes bad, the whole governor often sticks and or gets sloppy. Only source is old TH 425s. Good luck, they are getting hard to find. There are more trannys out there than governors.
Phil Swanson
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From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:29:17
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...?
Richard,
If the governor is unmodified, you will indeed have to remove the header
(but not iron manifold). While you've got the governor out, you may want to
remove its cover by grinding away the outer edge where the dome is crimped
to the base. With the dome loose, I'm told, on good authority, that the
governor can be R&R'd by unclipping the top bail, removing the dome, and
then the governor. To reseal the dome, run a small bead of RTV around the
joint before re-clipping the bail.
Perhaps that will save you a header R&R in the future.
My spare's got a "removable dome".
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Richard, you will need to drop that header. It is not a time consuming
> thing, at least on mine. Once we had it loose, I loosened the band clamp and
> slid it off the pipe and out of the way. Those band clamps are worth the
> money when the need arises to remove one.
> Dan
> --
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...? [message #99590 is a reply to message #99579] |
Mon, 13 September 2010 12:26 |
Ray Erspamer
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I can find rebuild kits, but not complete new governors. Would like to find a
complete new one.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Phil Swanson <woodyman1@sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 11:12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...?
Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 09:45
> Where can you get replacement or a "spare" governor?? Thanks
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> Not just the drive gear goes bad, the whole governor often sticks and or gets
>sloppy. Only source is old TH 425s. Good luck, they are getting hard to find.
>There are more trannys out there than governors.
>
> Phil Swanson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
> Sender: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:29:17
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Reply-To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...?
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> Richard,
>
> If the governor is unmodified, you will indeed have to remove the header
> (but not iron manifold). While you've got the governor out, you may want to
> remove its cover by grinding away the outer edge where the dome is crimped
> to the base. With the dome loose, I'm told, on good authority, that the
> governor can be R&R'd by unclipping the top bail, removing the dome, and
> then the governor. To reseal the dome, run a small bead of RTV around the
> joint before re-clipping the bail.
>
> Perhaps that will save you a header R&R in the future.
>
> My spare's got a "removable dome".
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
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>
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> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Richard, you will need to drop that header. It is not a time consuming
> > thing, at least on mine. Once we had it loose, I loosened the band clamp and
> > slid it off the pipe and out of the way. Those band clamps are worth the
> > money when the need arises to remove one.
> > Dan
> > --
> >
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78 GMC Royale Center Kitchen
403, 3.70 Final Drive
Holley Sniper Quadrajet EFI System,
Holley Hyperspark Ignition System
414-484-9431
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| Re: [GMCnet] governor + headers = headache...? [message #100113 is a reply to message #99590] |
Fri, 17 September 2010 12:16 |
midlf
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| Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 12:26 |
I can find rebuild kits, but not complete new governors. Would like to find a
complete new one.
Ray
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I believe the rebuild kits are only for a TH400 which has the governor installed under a side cover. The TH425 units are sealed although they have been cut open for repairs. There were posts and pictures about this recently.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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