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When I got my coach in July, Ken Henderson and I decided that it would be pretty boring to chronicle the day-to-day adventures that are new and exciting to me, but probably pretty mundane to a seasoned pro. However, a recent event has prompted me to write: Since day 1 I have smelled something that I thought was propane. Bubble tests and the fact that John Sharpe slept several nights enroute led me to believe I was smelling something else - especially when Rob Mueller discovered mouse droppings on the kitchen counter top.

Ken and Rob have now come to the conclusion that, not only do I have a live rodent, but I might just be the proud owner of a DRT (Dead Right There) mouse. Last night I went over and cleaned out all the cabinets. Mostly manuals, books, papers, etc. with no evidence of rodentia. I know from experience that some mice will eat some soap, but I have a full bar in the bathroom with no evidence of chewing....however, when you open the cabinet doors under the sink in the dry side bath there are gnaw marks around each door. In the bathroom I discovered a little poop, although Hey! you have to give the little feller credit for being close to the right place. BTY - I have found no evidence of wire chewing but did find some pvc that looks like it went through the macerator.

Question - Other that setting multiple traps of varying type or getting a hungry cat, do you have other suggestions for ridding/preventing an infestation in the future. Are there sprays (other than chlorophorm) they don't like? Looks like John plugged all the obvious holes, but I think it would probably take a very small hole for a mouse. The sticky traps work, by the way. I caught me last night. Thought I'd picked them all up before I got to work, but there it is...I just re-soled my shoe.

Febreeze inside cabinets and on carpeted surfaces under cabinets might help us forget the dearly departed...or we could just smear some Vicks Vapo-rub on our upper lip like they do in a crime scene. Smile


Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99224 is a reply to message #99221] Fri, 10 September 2010 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stick Miller wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 09:40

Ken and Rob have now come to the conclusion that, not only do I have a live rodent, but I might just be the proud owner of a DRT (Dead Right There) mouse. Last night I went over and cleaned out all the cabinets. Mostly manuals, books, papers, etc. with no evidence of rodentia.


The first year we had our coach, we made the mistake of using d-CON. Unfortunately it worked, and for the entire next camping season we got to smell "dead mouse". However since we never found the body we guessed that it was somewhere behind the kitchen counter (the mice had been leaving droppings in the drawers). The next year the smell was gone. Four years later when we replaced our range and counter top, we found the mouse skeleton lying behind the microwave (located where the regular oven used to be).


Nick Chapekis
Ypsilanti, MI
former owner - 78 Kingsley
Re: [GMCnet] Mighty Mouse [message #99237 is a reply to message #99221] Fri, 10 September 2010 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stick,
Is this what you're looking for?
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5649&cat=3536

Or is it this?
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=26613&title=death-row-21&cat=5030

To assist you in finding the critters, put some toilet paper under the
sink. You can then follow the trails as they use it and find the nests.

Roger Black
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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99238 is a reply to message #99221] Fri, 10 September 2010 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stick Miller wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 06:40

When I got my coach in July, Ken Henderson and I decided that it would be pretty boring to chronicle the day-to-day adventures that are new and exciting to me, but probably pretty mundane to a seasoned pro. However, a recent event has prompted me to write: Since day 1 I have smelled something that I thought was propane. Bubble tests and the fact that John Sharpe slept several nights enroute led me to believe I was smelling something else - especially when Rob Mueller discovered mouse droppings on the kitchen counter top.




I also have found that dead mice can smell like propane. No idea why, but I can confirm your nose on that.

Good luck finding where they get in. Rick Denny has been looking for all the places for years now.




Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99242 is a reply to message #99221] Fri, 10 September 2010 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stick Miller wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 08:40

When I got my coach in July, Ken Henderson and I decided that it would be pretty boring to chronicle the day-to-day
adventures that are new and exciting to me, but probably pretty mundane to a seasoned pro. However, a recent event has prompted me to write:
Since day 1 I have smelled something that I thought was propane. Bubble tests and the fact that John Sharpe slept several nights enroute led me to believe
I was smelling something else - especially when Rob Mueller discovered mouse droppings on the kitchen counter top.

Ken and Rob have now come to the conclusion that, not only do I have a live rodent, but I might just be the proud owner of a DRT (Dead Right There) mouse.
Last night I went over and cleaned out all the cabinets. Mostly manuals, books, papers, etc. with no evidence of rodentia. I know from experience that some mice
will eat some soap, but I have a full bar in the bathroom with no evidence of chewing....however, when you open the cabinet doors under the sink in the dry
side bath there are gnaw marks around each door. In the bathroom I discovered a little poop, although Hey! you have to give the little feller credit for being
close to the right place. BTY - I have found no evidence of wire chewing but did find some pvc that looks like it went through the macerator.

Question - Other that setting multiple traps of varying type or getting a hungry cat, do you have other suggestions for ridding/preventing
an infestation in the future. Are there sprays (other than chlorophorm) they don't like? Looks like John plugged all the obvious holes, but I think it
would probably take a very small hole for a mouse. The sticky traps work, by the way. I caught me last night. Thought I'd picked them all up before
I got to work, but there it is...I just re-soled my shoe.

Febreeze inside cabinets and on carpeted surfaces under cabinets might help us forget the dearly departed...or we could just smear some Vicks Vapo-rub
on our upper lip like they do in a crime scene. Smile


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The Lil Lady was driving the eastbound GMC coach up Tennessee'ssnakeback Ocoee River Route { US 64 East of US 411 } ~
Near the beginning of the river flume line we stopped to take some pictures of the White Water River Rafters ~
We Havn't Seen Any Rodent Hitchhikers Since ~
~ Joe ~


/_]*[__][] *[__|] ~ * '73 TZE063V101887 "
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" 'sweet home alebamy'

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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99247 is a reply to message #99242] Fri, 10 September 2010 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

...Question - Other that setting multiple traps of varying type or getting a hungry cat, do you have other suggestions for ridding/preventing
an infestation in the future.....


Stick, I understand the a couple of snakes can take care of the problem. They can get behind the oven, under the shower, about anywhere a mouse could get.


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Re: [GMCnet] Mighty Mouse [message #99251 is a reply to message #99247] Fri, 10 September 2010 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, but do snakes eat DEAD mice?

Sandra

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:38 AM, John Sharpe <johnasharpe@earthlink.net>wrote:

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> Quote:
> > ...Question - Other that setting multiple traps of varying type or
> getting a hungry cat, do you have other suggestions for ridding/preventing
> > an infestation in the future.....
>
>
> Stick, I understand the a couple of snakes can take care of the problem.
> They can get behind the oven, under the shower, about anywhere a mouse
> could get.
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Re: [GMCnet] Mighty Mouse [message #99265 is a reply to message #99251] Fri, 10 September 2010 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...do snakes eat DEAD mice?

They will get the live mice and make them dead.


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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99274 is a reply to message #99221] Fri, 10 September 2010 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stick Miller wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 08:40

Question - Other that setting multiple traps of varying type or getting a hungry cat, do you have other suggestions for ridding/preventing an infestation in the future.


I believe one (and you need more than one) of the best ways to take care of mice in the GMC is to not let them in. One of those ways is to eliminate them before they get in. I love the little guys and want to feed them very well. Here are the feeders I made for them.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22783&title=mouse26quot-3bfeeders-26qu&cat=4840

I fill the feeders with those little green "food" blocks made by TomCat. The blocks go in the stem of the tee. The end caps with the small hole in them are not necessary if your spouse is not a friend to all chipmunks. The three pieces of pipe are glued into the Tee. The end cap on the stem should not be glued so you can load the feeder. Do not load them with pellets as the little buggers will carry the pellets off faster than you can fill it. I place these around the outside of the house and barn and have found them to be very effective, not perfect but effective. I have to strap mine to a piece of rebar to prevent the raccoons from dragging them off. This has cut down mouse intrusions by 90%. Sticky traps are also good.

This is the URL to pics of the feeders:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22783&title=mouse26quot-3bfeeders-26qu&cat=4840


I also do not bait conventional traps in the barn. I have found modified traps are just as effective. I use enhanced trigger mouse traps shown here:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=26891&title=enhanced-trigger-mouse&cat=4840

I place the trigger end of the trap against a wall the mouse will run next to. Mice generally prefer to run along a wall as it limits their exposure to predators. The CFO believes that oil of peppermint will repel mice. I have placed my enhanced traps next to her cotton balls of peppermint oil and caught mice.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] Mighty Mouse [message #99367 is a reply to message #99274] Sat, 11 September 2010 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found most of the mice "mansions" when i gutted the coach. Two of them in
the ceiling, and the others when I removed the floor in the closet and the
bottoms of the cabinets.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=23249&title=mouse-mansion&cat=500



On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net>wrote:

>
>
> Stick Miller wrote on Fri, 10 September 2010 08:40
> > Question - Other that setting multiple traps of varying type or getting a
> hungry cat, do you have other suggestions for ridding/preventing an
> infestation in the future.
>
>
> I believe one (and you need more than one) of the best ways to take care of
> mice in the GMC is to not let them in. One of those ways is to eliminate
> them before they get in. I love the little guys and want to feed them very
> well. Here are the feeders I made for them.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22783&title=mouse26quot-3bfeeders-26qu&cat=4840
>
> I fill the feeders with those little green "food" blocks made by TomCat.
> The blocks go in the stem of the tee. The end caps with the small hole in
> them are not necessary if your spouse is not a friend to all chipmunks. The
> three pieces of pipe are glued into the Tee. The end cap on the stem should
> not be glued so you can load the feeder. Do not load them with pellets as
> the little buggers will carry the pellets off faster than you can fill it.
> I place these around the outside of the house and barn and have found them
> to be very effective, not perfect but effective. I have to strap mine to a
> piece of rebar to prevent the raccoons from dragging them off. This has cut
> down mouse intrusions by 90%. Sticky traps are also good.
>
> This is the URL to pics of the feeders:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22783&title=mouse26quot-3bfeeders-26qu&cat=4840
>
>
> I also do not bait conventional traps in the barn. I have found modified
> traps are just as effective. I use enhanced trigger mouse traps shown here:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=26891&title=enhanced-trigger-mouse&cat=4840
>
> I place the trigger end of the trap against a wall the mouse will run next
> to. Mice generally prefer to run along a wall as it limits their exposure
> to predators. The CFO believes that oil of peppermint will repel mice. I
> have placed my enhanced traps next to her cotton balls of peppermint oil and
> caught mice.
>
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150
> Palmyra WI
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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99422 is a reply to message #99221] Sun, 12 September 2010 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,
Spud found a nest under our shower in the dry bath.
No passports or visas, hope they were local!


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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99597 is a reply to message #99221] Mon, 13 September 2010 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi
We had mice when we bought the gmc (2005) & again in the spring 2006 & 2007. We had to gut the gmc each time. In the spring of 2007 after gutting it again, we have run an electronic device that my husband laughed at me about when I purchased & now he swears by it - haven't had a mouse in the gmc since. Knock wood.
Kathy


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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99602 is a reply to message #99597] Mon, 13 September 2010 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had posted this on soe sort of sideways version of this thread, didn't know if everyone got a look at it:

Here in the Southwest, we have a problem with Pack-rats. They are actually some sort of wood rat and, like mice, are nocturnal. I don't know if this will work with mice, but I found out that lighting the underside of the vehicle will keep them away. At most desert campgrounds, the camp hosts place light ropes under their motor homes or trailers. The rats, which do their thing at night, stay away. I tried this at home, in my driveway, and haven't had a rat problem since. Prior to using the light ropes, I would set live traps and catch a rat on a regular basis. I have had limited luck with light ropes from Lowes, they drop out sections of lights after a short time, but I'm considering ordering some LED ropes which will last longer and give off more light.

The biggest problem I have is remembering to go out and plug the light ropes in every evening. I guess I could rig them up to a timer or a photocell. Again, I don't know if this would work on mice, but light ropes are cheap enough that it's worth a try.


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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99611 is a reply to message #99597] Mon, 13 September 2010 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kjmartin wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 15:27

Hi
We had mice when we bought the gmc (2005) & again in the spring 2006 & 2007. We had to gut the gmc each time. In the spring of 2007 after gutting it again, we have run an electronic device that my husband laughed at me about when I purchased & now he swears by it - haven't had a mouse in the gmc since. Knock wood.
Kathy


Let me get this straight. You have Gutted your GMC 3 times over mice? I just can not express how far removed I feel from any stage of gutting the coach. I don't care if it is inhabited by a family of barbary apes, I'm simply not willing to go that far for a rodent. I don't even have a bed long enough for me...bigger fish to fry, in other words.

My coach may need gutting at some point, and I may find the dessicated remains of all manner of fauna, but that will not be my primary goal. I'll just wear a clothespin on my nose or sell the damn thing. Razz


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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99625 is a reply to message #99602] Mon, 13 September 2010 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl S. wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 14:09

I had posted this on soe sort of sideways version of this thread, didn't know if everyone got a look at it:

Here in the Southwest, we have a problem with Pack-rats. They are actually some sort of wood rat and, like mice, are nocturnal. I don't know if this will work with mice, but I found out that lighting the underside of the vehicle will keep them away. At most desert campgrounds, the camp hosts place light ropes under their motor homes or trailers. The rats, which do their thing at night, stay away. I tried this at home, in my driveway, and haven't had a rat problem since. Prior to using the light ropes, I would set live traps and catch a rat on a regular basis. I have had limited luck with light ropes from Lowes, they drop out sections of lights after a short time, but I'm considering ordering some LED ropes which will last longer and give off more light.

The biggest problem I have is remembering to go out and plug the light ropes in every evening. I guess I could rig them up to a timer or a photocell. Again, I don't know if this would work on mice, but light ropes are cheap enough that it's worth a try.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl S. '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ.



Try this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=24928&title=oh-oh-what-27s-happening-3f&cat=4732


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Re: Mighty Mouse [message #99772 is a reply to message #99625] Tue, 14 September 2010 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 17:23

Carl S. wrote on Mon, 13 September 2010 14:09

... but I found out that lighting the underside of the vehicle will keep them away. ...


Try this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=24928&title=oh-oh-what-27s-happening-3f&cat=4732


Looks like a UFO about to take off.


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<<< Looks like a UFO about to take off >>>

Maybe he should add some hydraulics to start bouncing it like a low rider!!


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