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A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #98939] Wed, 08 September 2010 08:12 Go to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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The time is drawing near. 2 weeks and there will already be several GMC coaches in Du Quoin. Eastern States will be there for a gathering before International. Our dues are cheap and I will have Eastern States applications at the table. The numbers are good. We are going to have a big one. Lots of new folks will make this their first International gathering. I recall our first one in Michigan. A lot of work has been done in preparing for this one. I realize never will everyone be happy but this time I expect fewer complaints than any gathering since I have been attending.
Highway 51 is a good GMC friendly wide 2 lane road. Anywhere you get on it will be good. I would not come across from 57 to 51 at the Marion exit unless you are planning for extra time and lots of shopping. We have traveled 51 from the south to highway 70 a few times and it is all good road. There is a lot of highway work going on in Illinois. Yesterday we only ran into one short spot on 51. That was just south of Carbondale and only a 5 minute wait. There was none from the north yesterday. Lots of work going on in various spots on 57. Let me say that you need to hold to the speed limit. I have never driven I-57 from the south without seeing at least one cop the first 20 miles. Saturday we saw 8-10 troopers before we got to the Marion exit. The fines are steep in Illinois.
Come if you can. I promise you will not be dissappointed. The tech seesions are great. The social atmosphere is outstanding.
Please come by Jim K's table to see me if you are new. I will be there. I think Jim may be busy with appraisals this time. With recent talk about fire loss and proper insurance several have already contacted him about the appraisals. When Jim is gone, I got "deals".
Oh, almost forgot. Should you be coming from Carbondale, keep your eye to the right. About 4-5 miles you will see a RR bridge that was built in 1902, big numbers. The drive just north of that bridge, on same side of road, leads to a very famous guy that was my mentor while getting our coach ready to travel. You will know who as the road is named after him. He was one of the fore fathers of this net. I am hoping he can make an appearance at the convention.
See yall there.
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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99059 is a reply to message #98939] Wed, 08 September 2010 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan,
I'll make sure I hang around to make sure you don't give away the farm.
This year we are only bringing in samples to show and to take orders. We
will pick up half of the freight on all orders.
I'm sure were all going to be selling the raffle tickets on the Disc and
Reaction Arm Kit.




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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99077 is a reply to message #98939] Thu, 09 September 2010 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bet that fellow lives on Archer lane.


Oh, almost forgot. Should you be coming from Carbondale, keep your
eye to the right. About 4-5 miles you will see a RR bridge that was
built in 1902, big numbers. The drive just north of that bridge, on
same side of road, leads to a very famous guy that was my mentor while
getting our coach ready to travel. You will know who as the road is
named after him. He was one of the fore fathers of this net. I am
hoping he can make an appearance at the convention.

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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99103 is a reply to message #99077] Thu, 09 September 2010 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Thu, 09 September 2010 06:51

I bet that fellow lives on Archer lane.


Oh, almost forgot. Should you be coming from Carbondale, keep your
eye to the right. About 4-5 miles you will see a RR bridge that was
built in 1902, big numbers. The drive just north of that bridge, on
same side of road, leads to a very famous guy that was my mentor while
getting our coach ready to travel. You will know who as the road is
named after him. He was one of the fore fathers of this net. I am
hoping he can make an appearance at the convention.

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Re: A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99150 is a reply to message #98939] Thu, 09 September 2010 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It appears the GMCES Saturday seminars will deal mostly with various aspects of the dash air conditioning system in the GMC.

Our dash air has not worked since I purchased the coach, and to be honest, that is one of the reasons we did not use the coach as much as we might have this past (relatively hot) summer.

I am planning on being at Duquoin all week. So now I am making it my goal, using the info gleaned from those seminars, to by the end of the GMCMI convention to have at least diagnosed what is wrong with my a/c. I don't necessarily expect to fix it by the end of the week, but would like to determine what I need to do to fix it.

So my question is what tools/supplies should I bring to accomplish this goal?


Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)

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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99172 is a reply to message #99150] Thu, 09 September 2010 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Paul,

If you have not already done so I would suggest that you learn how the air
conditioning system is supposed to work. You can do that by studying the
appropriate parts of Section 1 Body Heating and Air conditioning of the
Maintenance Manual. You will probably have to go through it a number of
times to gain a good understanding of the system (well I did at least).

Once you've done that go to the trouble shooting section and review it also.


I think with the knowledge you gain by studying the manual, information
gleaned from the seminars, and help from other GMC'ers at the convention you
will accomplish your goal.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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It appears the GMCES Saturday seminars will deal mostly with various aspects
of the dash air conditioning system in the GMC.

Our dash air has not worked since I purchased the coach, and to be honest,
that is one of the reasons we did not use the coach as much as we might have
this past (relatively hot) summer.

I am planning on being at Duquoin all week. So now I am making it my goal,
using the info gleaned form those seminars, to by the end of the GMCMI
convention to have at least diagnosed what is wrong with my a/c. I don't
necessarily expect to fix it by then end of the week, but would like to
determine what I need to do to fix it.

So my question is what tools/supplies should I bring to accomplish this
goal?
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Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99176 is a reply to message #99150] Thu, 09 September 2010 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hope this sparks some great chatter here on the net for those poor
souls who can not be there.

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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99186 is a reply to message #99176] Thu, 09 September 2010 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am hoping some of the guys bring their super duper lp sniffers. I can not find the leak in my system with soap. I need some help. Local propane dealer, my cousin, is little help. They could not find it either.
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Dan make sure the oven pilot light is off also the pilot for the stove burners. Twisted Evil Thanks for the card not necessary.. Twisted Evil

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Re: A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99299 is a reply to message #98939] Fri, 10 September 2010 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re small LP leaks. I had, maybe still have a sensitive nose to natural gas and propane. I had a slight, very slight smell of propane in the stove of my SOB. Turns out it was one of the burner controls. A replacement from the RV store stopped that.

I note someone said, "be sure the pilot light is off". The brand of stove/oven in my SOB requires carefull reading of the oven control to determine how to turn the oven pilot off. I think turning off the oven pilot also turns off the stove top pilot.
I can get the brand if someone needs to know. It is 1976 vintage.

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Re: A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99305 is a reply to message #99299] Fri, 10 September 2010 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mine is leaking with the tank valve off. My refer tries to run also, with valve shut, on lp. I unhooked line and sprayed the valve with soapy water. Could not see anything. Since the tank is almost empty I think I will pull the gauge and get a new rubber seal.
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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99333 is a reply to message #99305] Sat, 11 September 2010 03:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan,
The closer to empty they get, the more the propane stinks. The stink
juice keeps building up with each refill.

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> Mine is leaking with the tank valve off. My refer tries to run also, with valve shut, on lp. I unhooked line and sprayed the valve with soapy water. Could not see anything. Since the tank is almost empty I think I will pull the gauge and get a new rubber seal.
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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99344 is a reply to message #99333] Sat, 11 September 2010 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok Steve but I got to fix this thing. It leaked a tank out over a 2 mo. period when I had the valve turned off. Never had that problem before now. I been sealing the joints in line with the gas goop but that is not stopping it from getting out. It must be the gauge.
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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99345 is a reply to message #99344] Sat, 11 September 2010 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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build this to find your leaks

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> Ok Steve but I got to fix this thing. It leaked a tank out over a 2 mo.
> period when I had the valve turned off. Never had that problem before now. I
> been sealing the joints in line with the gas goop but that is not stopping
> it from getting out. It must be the gauge.
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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99346 is a reply to message #99344] Sat, 11 September 2010 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow,
That is a lot and dangerous. I hope you get it repaired.

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> Ok Steve but I got to fix this thing. It leaked a tank out over a 2 mo. period when I had the valve turned off. Never had that problem before now. I been sealing the joints in line with the gas goop but that is not stopping it from getting out. It must be the gauge.
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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99353 is a reply to message #99344] Sat, 11 September 2010 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like a problem at the source. Something connected to the tank or the
tank itself must be the problem. Either way, not good.

BTW, be sure and park far away at DuQuoin.

Byron


Dan Gregg wrote:

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> Ok Steve but I got to fix this thing. It leaked a tank out over a 2 mo. period
> when I had the valve turned off. Never had that problem before now. I been
> sealing the joints in line with the gas goop but that is not stopping it from
> getting out. It must be the gauge.
> Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] A Few Thoughts On Du Quoin [message #99354 is a reply to message #99344] Sat, 11 September 2010 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 11 September 2010 10:03

Ok Steve but I got to fix this thing. It leaked a tank out over a 2 mo. period when I had the valve turned off. Never had that problem before now. I been sealing the joints in line with the gas goop but that is not stopping it from getting out. It must be the gauge.
Dan

Dan,

Either mix up some bubbly dish soap or buy some bubble stuff at the dollar store and spray/dribble/pour it all over everything you can find on the tank. Put a few drips in the fill fitting.

The O-ring behind the gage is a common failure sooner or later the screws won't stop the leak.

Another common failure is the stem seal on the service valve. It won't blow bubbles unless the valve is open. That is not a repairable item, but the valve can be replaced easily.

A manometer will only tell you if the supply pressure is correct and if you then shut things down, if there is a leak. It can't help you find his leak. Particularly if it is about the tank proper.

Sometimes a hardware store O-ring will fit, but I bet JimK has them in stock.

BTDT - more than once

Matt


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Matt, you coming to Du Quoin?

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Dan:

If you suspect the O ring behind the tank mounted gage assembly is the source I would change it for sure. About 10 years ago when I moved from warm Southern California to frigid Northern Nevada in March that O ring started leaking liquid propane at 1 AM when the temperature got down to +15 degrees. Good thing my wife was watching TV, I went outside to check on the smell and the liquid gas was running out of that O ring and no way to stop it except tighten the screws really tight. We had to leave the campground and drive around for 2 hours with all windows open.
The whole camp ground wreaked of propane even after we got back 2 hours later. The local propane outfitter had the replacement O ring.

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WD0AFQ wrote on Sat, 11 September 2010 13:04

Matt, you coming to Du Quoin?

Dan,
As of this moment, we (the bride of 38ys, the dog of 3ys and yours truly [lots of yrs]) are planing to show up at DuQuoin (the wife that is fluent in French says something that sound like DaQuack) in time for dinner Friday.

We will be part of the Eastern States meeting, not be a part of the ES dinner because Mary is a great cook on a 2 burner alcohol stove so working the coach galley is a treat.

If I can resurrect it. I may have a sniffer with me that will find very small leaks of anything that is different than air.

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