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| Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98474] |
Sat, 04 September 2010 08:09  |
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RF_Burns
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Paula finds the radiant heat from the sun way too much when sitting up front. I'm guessing all that glass with little tint in it is the issue. Our dash AC works well and it helps to have the house air running off the genny too.
Has anyone tried a band of tint along the top of the windshields? Does the big sunvisor help (although I was hoping not to spend too much on the problem.
Would tinting the sides at the front help?
If she pulls the curtain along to block the sun then she is good, but that's not a great solution when driving!
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98492 is a reply to message #98474] |
Sat, 04 September 2010 09:11  |
emerystora
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One reallyshouldnot be able toget sunburned through the windshield. It
us laminated glass which is better for blocking the ultraviolet rays
of the sun than low-e coatings.
However side windows, being tempered glass, will allow ultraviolet to
go through
I could get sunburned on my left arm from the side glass but never on
my face when driving
Emery Stora
On Sep 4, 2010, at 7:09 AM, Bruce Hislop <bruce@perthcomm.com> wrote:
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> Paula finds the radiant heat from the sun way too much when sitting
> up front. I'm guessing all that glass with little tint in it is the
> issue. Our dash AC works well and it helps to have the house air
> running off the genny too.
>
> Has anyone tried a band of tint along the top of the windshields?
> Does the big sunvisor help (although I was hoping not to spend too
> much on the problem.
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> Would tinting the sides at the front help?
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> If she pulls the curtain along to block the sun then she is good,
> but that's not a great solution when driving!
> --
> Bruce Hislop,
> S. Ontario Canada
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| Re: Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98499 is a reply to message #98474] |
Sat, 04 September 2010 09:36 |
GeorgeRud
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When I first bought my coach, the side windows and a 6" strip on top of the windshield had tint film applied, and it did seem to help.
I removed it as it was in pretty bad shape, but it's probably not a bad idea to try to install some tint to cut down on the solar.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98500 is a reply to message #98474] |
Sat, 04 September 2010 09:41 |
shawnee
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| RF_Burns wrote on Sat, 04 September 2010 09:09 |
Paula finds the radiant heat from the sun way too much when sitting up front. I'm guessing all that glass with little tint in it is the issue. Our dash AC works well and it helps to have the house air running off the genny too.
Has anyone tried a band of tint along the top of the windshields? Does the big sunvisor help (although I was hoping not to spend too much on the problem.
Would tinting the sides at the front help?
If she pulls the curtain along to block the sun then she is good, but that's not a great solution when driving!
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Bruce,
When I first got my coach it had the tinting across the top of the windshield and it helped. It also had tinting on the top side windows. Every little bit helps.
Gene Dotson
74 Canyonlands
www.bdub.net/Motorhome_Enhancements New Windows and Aluminum Radiators
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98521 is a reply to message #98513] |
Sat, 04 September 2010 13:14 |
emerystora
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Funny how we tend to catagorize people. I spent 20 times more of my
business career in finance than I did in engineering. But I guess they
are much the same -- tring to put the parts together to make them fit.
I delibrately said "should not" as nothing in life is 100%.
Sounds like Mary must be almost Albino!
Thanks for the inviation. We'll be in the western part of the state
near Grand Rapids. My daughter from Canton will come over to see us at
Gun Lake so we won't get over to the east parts of Michigan this time.
Emery Stora
On Sep 4, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> emerystora wrote on Sat, 04 September 2010 10:11
>> One really should not be able to get sunburned through the
>> windshield. It uses laminated glass which is better for blocking
>> the ultraviolet rays of the sun than low-e coatings.
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>> However side windows, being tempered glass, will allow ultraviolet
>> to go through.
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>> I could get sunburned on my left arm from the side glass but never
>> on my face when driving.
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>> Emery Stora
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> Emery,
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> Notice you said "should not". . .
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> You are probably basing this on a 99.8 percentile sample of the
> population. Common issue among engineering types.
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> Normal is boring.
> Mary is of Dutch heritage and about as light skinned as you have
> ever seen. And yes, to her the side windows are deadly. She has
> special white cotton that travels with us and she often puts on
> sunscreen while dressing.
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> If you need a place to stop in Michigan, we are about at the SW
> corner of Metro Airport.
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> See you in DiQuoin in any case.
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> Matt
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> SE Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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| shower curtain [message #98546 is a reply to message #98483] |
Sat, 04 September 2010 17:18 |
bukzin
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| mcolie wrote on Sat, 04 September 2010 06:34 |
| RF_Burns wrote on Sat, 04 September 2010 09:09 |
Paula finds the radiant heat from the sun way too much when sitting up front. I'm guessing all that glass with little tint in it is the issue. Our dash AC works well and it helps to have the house air running off the genny too.
Has anyone tried a band of tint along the top of the windshields? Does the big sunvisor help (although I was hoping not to spend too much on the problem.
Would tinting the sides at the front help?
If she pulls the curtain along to block the sun then she is good, but that's not a great solution when driving!
Bruce Hislop,
S. Ontario Canada
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Bruce,
I think I know what you mean. . .
Mary has gotten sunburned while driving south in the morning or west at midday.
If you stop into Wally's and look in the car stuff, they usually have several kinds of sunshades that stick on side windows and they are a great help. The small rectangular ones we got can even go on the windshield below the visor.
If you still have or can fit the behind the cab (bridge) curtain, that can sequester the dash AC so it is quite adequate (and mine is a 73w/134).
Tinting film on the top 1/3 of the windshield wouldn't hurt either.
Matt
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I installed a clear plastic shower curtain (cut to length)
to try and contain the dash air up front.
Seems to help a little and I could still (mostly) see
out the rear window.
I am thinking the best answer for me (and fair skinned wife)
would be a Vintage Air add-on system. May not help the sun
burns be would improve our attitudes!
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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| Re: Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98582 is a reply to message #98474] |
Sat, 04 September 2010 22:12 |
Luvn737s
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The shuttle buses that run around the airport have a translucent roll-up shade that pulls down in front of the driver and is stbilized by 2 rods that run vertically along the edge of the shade. Most of the time it's only rolled down 1/3 or less.
Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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| Re: Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98601 is a reply to message #98474] |
Sun, 05 September 2010 03:31 |
Adrien G.
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Bruce,
At the present time the windshiels are out of the my coach, for cockpit work, and when I'll be done, the windshields and side windows will be tinted. Tinted with the lightest color tint, nonreflective film. Done right, it wouldn't be noticeable.
The windshields can't be done on the coach, but the side windows can.
I've tinted my car side windows, and now I can drive with my arm on the door and not feel the sun rays scorching my skin. It does work.
Yes I know, it's not legal to tint the wnindshields. It's only illegal when caught. Last time I checked the law book, living was not legal either.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98637 is a reply to message #98601] |
Sun, 05 September 2010 12:05 |
roy1
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A couple of months ago I took a set of my side windows to a local window tint shop to get them tinted. To my surprise the technician was applying tint to the win shield of a ford pick up truck (the whole windshield). I asked him if that was legal and he said yes for medical reasons ,some folks need the extra ultraviolet protection. True or not I don't know but if not I would think his business would suffer if he got caught?
Roy
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98645 is a reply to message #98637] |
Sun, 05 September 2010 12:48 |
Keith V
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| roy1 wrote on Sun, 05 September 2010 12:05 |
A couple of months ago I took a set of my side windows to a local window tint shop to get them tinted. To my surprise the technician was applying tint to the win shield of a ford pick up truck (the whole windshield). I asked him if that was legal and he said yes for medical reasons ,some folks need the extra ultraviolet protection. True or not I don't know but if not I would think his business would suffer if he got caught?
Roy
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If you have a note from your mom, I mean doctor, it's legal. But a lot of shops will do illegal tint. When you get caught, they will happily remove it for a fee...
I put limo tint on all the house windows and the inside temperature difference is amazing. It still gets hot when sitting baking in the sun, but no where near as bad
I plan on putting 50% on the cockpit windows and a strip across the top of the windshield
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
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| Re: shower curtain [message #98661 is a reply to message #98546] |
Sun, 05 September 2010 17:19 |
George Beckman
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[quote title=bukzin wrote on Sat, 04 September 2010 15:18][quote title=mcolie wrote on Sat, 04 September 2010 06:34]| RF_Burns wrote on Sat, 04 September 2010 09:09 |
Paula finds the radiant heat from the sun way too much when sitting up front. I'm guessing all that glass with little tint in it is the issue. Our dash AC works well and it helps to have the house air running off the genny too.
Bruce Hislop,
S. Ontario Canada
Bruce,
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I am thinking the best answer for me (and fair skinned wife)
would be a Vintage Air add-on system. May not help the sun
burns be would improve our attitudes!
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We had JimK put in the Vintage Air add-on. Our '74 has the early ducts which are pretty ineffective. We live in hot country and have not been hot once, since. In moist weather it tends to drip a bit on the carpet as it is hard to mount it "level" and still be able to open the hatch, but it works beautifully. Moat of the time we run the V-Air fan on low. We went to the mountains once with two passengers in the dinette seats and they were cool enough, also. We were not running the house air.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98662 is a reply to message #98646] |
Sun, 05 September 2010 17:33 |
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ljdavick
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I'm about to do the same. I got a quote from a local shop for EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS!
After looking at Jim B's write-up I think I'll do it myself. My wife would like to have a bit of privacy while the drapes are open.
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
On Sep 5, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Desmond's GMC wrote:
> I'm considering tinting the living area windows, anyone have a reason
> that I shouldn't?
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> When we were shopping for our coach, I did drive one that had tinting
> added on the upper part of the windshield. The sharp contrast between
> the tined and untinted areas was rather distracting. I wonder if
> there's a way to have a fade without that tint line.
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> DC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98666 is a reply to message #98662] |
Sun, 05 September 2010 17:59 |
Keith V
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I was quoted $1200 !
I talked to a local guy who had just had his done and he was not impressed. they cut out around the handles leaving gaps and he made them redo a couple of windows.
I bought a 50' roll for about $150(?), for good tint and got tools too.
You need 26' x 4" wide if you make no mistakes.
I removed the sliding parts of the windows, cleaned the tracks everything is like new now. I even removed the vertical bar on the slider and ran the tint under it. looks great.
the rear window is HUGE and helps to have 2 people to place it.
the big sliders on my coach needed a little shrinking to get the wrinkles out.
If you follow jims advice, keep everything wet so it slides nicely it'll look great.
It took me 2 weekends to do mine, but again I removed all the hardware and restored the windows too
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
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Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: Reducing sun's heat in the cockpit area [message #98667 is a reply to message #98474] |
Sun, 05 September 2010 18:04 |
Gail Marks Cruiser
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G'day,
We had dark tint put on all the living area windows, the tinter said it was one shade short of an ambulance tint.
During the day we can see out clearly but nobody can see in.
At night we roll the insulated blinds down, also whilst parked on a hot day we often roll the blinds down on the sun side to keep the heat out.
The side windows up front have been tinted with the darkest legal tint, which made a big difference.
I wouldn't want tint on the windscreen, as I sit pretty high and as it is I have trouble seeing the top light at an intersection.
Our front curtains are "three pass" with velcro strips on the bottom edge to hold them against the windscreen, they do work well to keep the heat out whilst parked.
Mark Bennett
Gail & Mark's Cruiser
Gold Coast, Australia.
Motorhoming Lifestyle.com
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| [GMCnet] Onan starter problem [message #98672 is a reply to message #98667] |
Sun, 05 September 2010 19:07 |
Mike Kilroy
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Location: Farmersville, OH (near D...
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I'd like some opinions please....
I don,t know if they still call them the 'Bendix spring, on starter, or
if I am just dating myself, but mine is stuck again.
Onan does not get started enough so it rusted a year ago. Took it off,
cleaned it, greased it, and it worked fine.... for about 6 months. Now
stuck again. Won't extend rotating starter into gear again.
Should I take starter off and clean it again? Maybe do better job this
time? Or is your opinion I am wasting my time.
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