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[GMCnet] Power distribution using circuit breakers [message #97276] Thu, 26 August 2010 09:36 Go to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Power distribution using circuit breakers

Many of us have been using circuit breakers rather than hidden fuses for
power distribution in the GMC.

There are many advantages to this application and these slides describe some
of these features:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=35548&title=power-distribution-using-circuit-breakers&cat=5581

The terminal covers are useful, since they protect the terminals and, they
are little buckets of Silicone Grease you can use in other applications,
like thread and joint lubrication.

as always,
do what you can - just because you can ;>)
iGene

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Re: [GMCnet] Power distribution using circuit breakers [message #97278 is a reply to message #97276] Thu, 26 August 2010 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KRDietz is currently offline  KRDietz   United States
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Love those circuit breakers and used these boots to protect them.

http://order.waytekwire.com/products2/M50/140/50/200/1/Circuit%20Breaker%20Boots/Circuit%20Breaker%20Accessories/Circuit%20Protection/
*http://tinyurl.com/368gal6

*Kelvin

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> Power distribution using circuit breakers
>
> Many of us have been using circuit breakers rather than hidden fuses for
> power distribution in the GMC.
>
> There are many advantages to this application and these slides describe some
> of these features:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=35548&title=power-distribution-using-circuit-breakers&cat=5581
>
> The terminal covers are useful, since they protect the terminals and, they
> are little buckets of Silicone Grease you can use in other applications,
> like thread and joint lubrication.
>
> as always,
> do what you can - just because you can ;>)
> iGene
>
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Power distribution using circuit breakers [message #97280 is a reply to message #97276] Thu, 26 August 2010 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bukzin is currently offline  bukzin   United States
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Gene,

What values are you using
on which circuits?


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Power distribution using circuit breakers [message #97281 is a reply to message #97280] Thu, 26 August 2010 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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there are various sizes, depending upon what your load is

5 -30 amps

gene



On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Richard <bukzin@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> Gene,
>
> What values are you using
> on which circuits?
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> Chico California
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Re: [GMCnet] Power distribution using circuit breakers [message #97282 is a reply to message #97278] Thu, 26 August 2010 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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> Love those circuit breakers and used these boots to protect them.
>
>
> http://order.waytekwire.com/products2/M50/140/50/200/1/Circuit%20Breaker%20Boots/Circuit%20Breaker%20Accessories/Circuit%20Protection/
> *http://tinyurl.com/368gal6
>
>
yep, liked those also, ( a little pricey) but got one with my electric wiper
kit ;>)

I will put these covers on a slide also, if that is ok
gene


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Re: [GMCnet] Power distribution using circuit breakers [message #97336 is a reply to message #97282] Thu, 26 August 2010 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Shrink wrapped an inline diode once, and a fusible link too. The diode
didn't like it at all and promptly melted it off. It was on an electrical
fan controller if I recall. Size the circuit breaker to the amp draw of the
normal warm circuit load plus a 10 percent overkill.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:

> > Love those circuit breakers and used these boots to protect them.
> >
> >
> >
> http://order.waytekwire.com/products2/M50/140/50/200/1/Circuit%20Breaker%20Boots/Circuit%20Breaker%20Accessories/Circuit%20Protection/
> > *http://tinyurl.com/368gal6
> >
> >
> yep, liked those also, ( a little pricey) but got one with my electric
> wiper
> kit ;>)
>
> I will put these covers on a slide also, if that is ok
> gene
>
>
> --
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
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Re: [GMCnet] Power distribution using circuit breakers [message #97339 is a reply to message #97276] Thu, 26 August 2010 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
zhagrieb is currently offline  zhagrieb   United States
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A negative of these self resetting breakers not to be overlooked is that they'll continue to reset themselves after they cool. Not so good if the problem is a short! Can lead to burned wires and fire. Better a fuse that's not hidden or a breaker that must be manually reset.

Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG '73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'

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Re: [GMCnet] Power distribution using circuit breakers [message #97432 is a reply to message #97276] Fri, 27 August 2010 07:05 Go to previous message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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I am not fond of these and that is because they often masquerade as and intermittent, and the actual situation will often be mis-reported and the actual cause can be difficult to locate. They also tend to be slow and so tolerant of an over-current conditions for too long. Yes, fuses can be expensive, but they work. If you have a situation like a macerator that is likely to be a problem, use a resetable breaker.

Finding intermittents is one of my favorite things - NOT.

In the work that I do on other people's boats there are two common issues that really get to me.

Number one is hidden inline fuses. The circuit goes dead, but everything you can find is good there just isn't any DC at the other end. They end up all kinds of places because some people are too hurried/lazy/cheap to buy enough wire. These can be close to that because the owners frequently do not understand the function.

Second is conductors that change description mid-run. So, the red the is connected at one end is orange/yellow/green at the other.

Most of my clients have boats that are over thirty years old - there is not documentation available and there is a long list of PO issues.

Thank you for listening

Matt


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