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[GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #95995] Sun, 15 August 2010 23:45 Go to next message
Mary Duprey is currently offline  Mary Duprey   United States
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Hey, thanks for the help, unfortunately, having more problems trying to get the 455 olds back together. Got new head bolts, got them all torqued down and set now seem to be having a problem with rocker arm bolts. Making sure lifters are not on lob of camshaft and still unable to torque bolts to the required 25' lbs. as in manual. Have snapped off 2 bolts thus far and that's only torquing them to 10 to 15' lbs. Anyone have any suggestions or cures for this problem? Would really like to use the GMC at least once before the snow flys but things just don't seem to be working out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

Mary Duprey'76 Palm BeachSt. Johnsbury, VT


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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96000 is a reply to message #95995] Mon, 16 August 2010 06:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gmcrv1 is currently offline  gmcrv1   United States
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Mary,

Did you chase the threads with a tap before you started assembly? Did you
align everything and then hand thread the bolts evenly until all bolts had
been started.

I'm sure one of the more knowledgeable engine gurus will chime in and give
you more info then I.

Good Luck,

Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Hey, thanks for the help, unfortunately, having more problems trying to get
> the 455 olds back together. Got new head bolts, got them all torqued down
> and set now seem to be having a problem with rocker arm bolts. Making sure
> lifters are not on lob of camshaft and still unable to torque bolts to the
> required 25' lbs. as in manual. Have snapped off 2 bolts thus far and
> that's only torquing them to 10 to 15' lbs. Anyone have any suggestions or
> cures for this problem? Would really like to use the GMC at least once
> before the snow flys but things just don't seem to be working out. Any help
> would be appreciated. Thanks,
>
> Mary Duprey'76 Palm BeachSt. Johnsbury, VT
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96002 is a reply to message #95995] Mon, 16 August 2010 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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You are snapping off pedestal bolts with 15 ft lbs of torque or less??
No bolt should ever be attached to an engine without first cleaning
off the threads on the bolts, and chasing the threads in the holes.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, thanks for the help, unfortunately, having more problems trying to get the 455 olds back together.  Got new head bolts, got them all torqued down and set now seem to be having a problem with rocker arm bolts.  Making sure lifters are not on lob of camshaft and still unable to torque bolts to the required 25' lbs. as in manual.  Have snapped off 2 bolts thus far and that's only torquing them to 10 to 15' lbs.  Anyone have any suggestions or cures for this problem?  Would really like to use the GMC at least once before the snow flys but things just don't seem to be working out.  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,
>
> Mary Duprey'76 Palm BeachSt. Johnsbury, VT
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96005 is a reply to message #95995] Mon, 16 August 2010 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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In addition to the good suggestions other have given about clean threads -- check the calibration on your torque wrench. You should be able to install those rocker bolts with your fingers except for the final torque.
Please let us know what you find.


Dennis Sexton
73 PD 230
Germantown, TN
USA



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From: Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild



ey, thanks for the help, unfortunately, having more problems trying to get the
55 olds back together. Got new head bolts, got them all torqued down and set
ow seem to be having a problem with rocker arm bolts. Making sure lifters are
ot on lob of camshaft and still unable to torque bolts to the required 25' lbs.
s in manual. Have snapped off 2 bolts thus far and that's only torquing them
o 10 to 15' lbs. Anyone have any suggestions or cures for this problem? Would
eally like to use the GMC at least once before the snow flys but things just
on't seem to be working out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,
Mary Duprey'76 Palm BeachSt. Johnsbury, VT

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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96013 is a reply to message #96002] Mon, 16 August 2010 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fred v is currently offline  fred v   United States
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 06:57

You are snapping off pedestal bolts with 15 ft lbs of torque or less??
No bolt should ever be attached to an engine without first cleaning
off the threads on the bolts, and chasing the threads in the holes.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, thanks for the help, unfortunately, having more problems trying to get the 455 olds back together.  Got new head bolts, got them all torqued down and set now seem to be having a problem with rocker arm bolts.  Making sure lifters are not on lob of camshaft and still unable to torque bolts to the required 25' lbs. as in manual.  Have snapped off 2 bolts thus far and that's only torquing them to 10 to 15' lbs.  Anyone have any suggestions or cures for this problem?  Would really like to use the GMC at least once before the snow flys but things just don't seem to be working out.  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,
>
> Mary Duprey'76 Palm BeachSt. Johnsbury, VT
>
>
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i would agree with Steve. 15 ft pounds is about all you can do with a 3/8" socket handle using one hand. those bolts should take a lot more force than that before breaking.


Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96016 is a reply to message #95995] Mon, 16 August 2010 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think you need to get someone experiemced to build this engine. There are too many pitfalls that will cause this motor to self destruct. Pay the man.

Phil Swanson
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96023 is a reply to message #96016] Mon, 16 August 2010 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mary Duprey is currently offline  Mary Duprey   United States
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Phil, Thanks for your suggestion, don't you think we've tried. Can't find anyone locally knowledgeable on the 455. No problem finding diesel mechanics around here, but older big block good mechanics are harder then hell to find.

>Mary Duprey>'76 Palm Beach>St. Johnsbury, VT



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> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:30:15 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
>
>
>
> I think you need to get someone experiemced to build this engine. There are too many pitfalls that will cause this motor to self destruct. Pay the man.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96024 is a reply to message #96023] Mon, 16 August 2010 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mary, check the blacklist in NH. I found a guy there that had a GMC and
owned a towing service and RV repair business. He might be a source for a
mechanic for you in VT. If you don't find him, email me off net and I will
try to find his name.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Phil, Thanks for your suggestion, don't you think we've tried. Can't find
> anyone locally knowledgeable on the 455. No problem finding diesel
> mechanics around here, but older big block good mechanics are harder then
> hell to find.
>
> >Mary Duprey>'76 Palm Beach>St. Johnsbury, VT
>
>
>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > From: woodyman1@sbcglobal.net
> > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:30:15 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
> >
> >
> >
> > I think you need to get someone experiemced to build this engine. There
> are too many pitfalls that will cause this motor to self destruct. Pay the
> man.
> >
> > Phil Swanson
> > 77GMCPB
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96029 is a reply to message #96024] Mon, 16 August 2010 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mary Duprey is currently offline  Mary Duprey   United States
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Jim, enlighten me on how to get to the blacklist. Been there before via someone's link but can't remember how. Thanks
>Mary Duprey>'76 Palm Beach>St. Johnsbury, VT



> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:49:42 -0700
> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
>
> Mary, check the blacklist in NH. I found a guy there that had a GMC and
> owned a towing service and RV repair business. He might be a source for a
> mechanic for you in VT. If you don't find him, email me off net and I will
> try to find his name.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 Royale 403
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > Phil, Thanks for your suggestion, don't you think we've tried. Can't find
> > anyone locally knowledgeable on the 455. No problem finding diesel
> > mechanics around here, but older big block good mechanics are harder then
> > hell to find.
> >
> > >Mary Duprey>'76 Palm Beach>St. Johnsbury, VT
> >
> >
> >
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > From: woodyman1@sbcglobal.net
> > > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:30:15 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you need to get someone experiemced to build this engine. There
> > are too many pitfalls that will cause this motor to self destruct. Pay the
> > man.
> > >
> > > Phil Swanson
> > > 77GMCPB
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96044 is a reply to message #96029] Mon, 16 August 2010 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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here is a collection of links, one of which is the black list

http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/hotlinks.html

gene



On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Jim, enlighten me on how to get to the blacklist. Been there before via
> someone's link but can't remember how. Thanks
> >Mary Duprey>'76 Palm Beach>St. Johnsbury, VT
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:49:42 -0700
> > From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
> >
> > Mary, check the blacklist in NH. I found a guy there that had a GMC and
> > owned a towing service and RV repair business. He might be a source for a
> > mechanic for you in VT. If you don't find him, email me off net and I
> will
> > try to find his name.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Or
> > 78 Royale 403
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Phil, Thanks for your suggestion, don't you think we've tried. Can't
> find
> > > anyone locally knowledgeable on the 455. No problem finding diesel
> > > mechanics around here, but older big block good mechanics are harder
> then
> > > hell to find.
> > >
> > > >Mary Duprey>'76 Palm Beach>St. Johnsbury, VT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > From: woodyman1@sbcglobal.net
> > > > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:30:15 -0500
> > > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think you need to get someone experiemced to build this engine.
> There
> > > are too many pitfalls that will cause this motor to self destruct. Pay
> the
> > > man.
> > > >
> > > > Phil Swanson
> > > > 77GMCPB
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96050 is a reply to message #96029] Mon, 16 August 2010 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Mary,

All you have to remember to find ANYTHING about GMC's is "bdub.net". Links
to everything are there.

Ken H.



On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Jim, enlighten me on how to get to the blacklist. Been there before via
> someone's link but can't remember how. Thanks
> >Mary Duprey>'76 Palm Beach>St. Johnsbury, VT
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:49:42 -0700
> > From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
> >
> > Mary, check the blacklist in NH. I found a guy there that had a GMC and
> > owned a towing service and RV repair business. He might be a source for a
> > mechanic for you in VT. If you don't find him, email me off net and I
> will
> > try to find his name.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Or
> > 78 Royale 403
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Phil, Thanks for your suggestion, don't you think we've tried. Can't
> find
> > > anyone locally knowledgeable on the 455. No problem finding diesel
> > > mechanics around here, but older big block good mechanics are harder
> then
> > > hell to find.
> > >
> > > >Mary Duprey>'76 Palm Beach>St. Johnsbury, VT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > From: woodyman1@sbcglobal.net
> > > > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:30:15 -0500
> > > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think you need to get someone experiemced to build this engine.
> There
> > > are too many pitfalls that will cause this motor to self destruct. Pay
> the
> > > man.
> > > >
> > > > Phil Swanson
> > > > 77GMCPB
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96056 is a reply to message #96016] Mon, 16 August 2010 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree 100% with Phil...............................................

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Phil Swanson <woodyman1@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>
>
> I think you need to get someone experiemced to build this engine. There
> are too many pitfalls that will cause this motor to self destruct. Pay the
> man.
>
> Phil Swanson
> 77GMCPB
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96096 is a reply to message #95995] Mon, 16 August 2010 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Please,
Go here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3100
You should be able to get a good idea of what you will need to do.
Feel free to ask any questions.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Mary Duprey <marysgmcplace@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, thanks for the help, unfortunately, having more problems trying to get the 455 olds back together.  Got new head bolts, got them all torqued down and set now seem to be having a problem with rocker arm bolts.  Making sure lifters are not on lob of camshaft and still unable to torque bolts to the required 25' lbs. as in manual.  Have snapped off 2 bolts thus far and that's only torquing them to 10 to 15' lbs.  Anyone have any suggestions or cures for this problem?  Would really like to use the GMC at least once before the snow flys but things just don't seem to be working out.  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,
>
> Mary Duprey'76 Palm BeachSt. Johnsbury, VT
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96113 is a reply to message #96029] Mon, 16 August 2010 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Aug 16, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Mary Duprey wrote:

> Jim, enlighten me on how to get to the blacklist. Been there
> before via someone's link but can't remember how. Thanks


Not Jim (one letter off) but...

http://www.bdub.net/Black_List/GMCAssist.pdf


Tim Conway
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96171 is a reply to message #96023] Tue, 17 August 2010 04:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Mary
The guy in NH is Mike Glover, NE RV, very good, i've used him in the past but he's quite a distance, i would suggest trying Craigslist Automotive section, I found mechanics in there that are willing to travel, at least one was ASE certified, maybe some of the guys here can offer some simple questions that are unique to the 455 olds, don't be afraid to ask for references, and check them, good luck,

Les Simpson
76 Glenbrook
Meredith, NH

> From: marysgmcplace@hotmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:40:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
>
>
> Phil, Thanks for your suggestion, don't you think we've tried. Can't find anyone locally knowledgeable on the 455. No problem finding diesel mechanics around here, but older big block good mechanics are harder then hell to find.
>
> >Mary Duprey>'76 Palm Beach>St. Johnsbury, VT
>
>
>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > From: woodyman1@sbcglobal.net
> > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:30:15 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild
> >
> >
> >
> > I think you need to get someone experiemced to build this engine. There are too many pitfalls that will cause this motor to self destruct. Pay the man.
> >
> > Phil Swanson
> > 77GMCPB
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96172 is a reply to message #96005] Tue, 17 August 2010 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Speaking of calibrating torque wrenches: I, and probably Ken Burton, will
bring to Du Quoin an electronic torque calibrator -- a load cell rigged to
measure applied torque from a socket drive. Just drop by my site with your
torque wrench and be done in 2 minutes. The GMCWiperMan demonstration wiper
should be waving a US flag. :-)

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:12 AM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:

>
> In addition to the good suggestions other have given about clean threads --
> check the calibration on your torque wrench. You should be able to install
> those rocker bolts with your fingers except for the final torque.
> Please let us know what you find.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96177 is a reply to message #95995] Tue, 17 August 2010 07:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mary Duprey wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 00:45


Hey, thanks for the help, unfortunately, having more problems trying to get the 455 olds back together. Got new head bolts, got them all torqued down and set now seem to be having a problem with rocker arm bolts. Making sure lifters are not on lob of camshaft and still unable to torque bolts to the required 25' lbs. as in manual. Have snapped off 2 bolts thus far and that's only torquing them to 10 to 15' lbs. Anyone have any suggestions or cures for this problem? Would really like to use the GMC at least once before the snow flys but things just don't seem to be working out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

Mary Duprey'76 Palm BeachSt. Johnsbury, VT


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Mary: I have repaired and rebuilt many engines and Oldsmobile V-8s are different in many respects. Lately We have been blessed with a new GMC owner in the fold, Mr. Joe Mondello.
http://www.nitrogeezers.com/joe_mondello.htm
If you want to learn how to do the Olds right, He will teach you.
http://mondello.com/index.htm
I would suggest going to any GM dealer and geting his Olds V-8 technical reference manual. GM part #12480027 Or ordering from him. I believe He will be doing a seminar at DuQuoin.
Anytime I have ever called Him on a Olds engine tech question, He has always been gracious and kind, answered my question, then tells me "its in the book". If you get in a corner, call Joe. He is in the Tech Center every day.. 931-459-2760


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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96189 is a reply to message #95995] Tue, 17 August 2010 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mary Duprey wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 00:45


Hey, thanks for the help, unfortunately, having more problems trying to get the 455 olds back together. Got new head bolts, got them all torqued down and set now seem to be having a problem with rocker arm bolts. Making sure lifters are not on lob of camshaft and still unable to torque bolts to the required 25' lbs. as in manual. Have snapped off 2 bolts thus far and that's only torquing them to 10 to 15' lbs. Anyone have any suggestions or cures for this problem? Would really like to use the GMC at least once before the snow flys but things just don't seem to be working out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

Mary Duprey'76 Palm BeachSt. Johnsbury, VT
>
>



Mary,
Rebuilding an Olds engine without expert/qualified Olds engine experience is, in my opinion asking for trouble. Probably the closest experienced help is Mike Glover in NH, he has repaired GMCs for years.

Are you aware that there is another long time GMC MH owner in St. Johnsbury? He may be helpful in identifying qualified help in your area. Contact me at gmc.bill@gmail.com if you need his contact information.

Good luck,
Bill


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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96234 is a reply to message #96189] Tue, 17 August 2010 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Mary,

Something is BAD wrong when rocker arm bolts break that easily. You need
experienced OLDSMOBILE help or you will very likely wind up beside the road
with a blown engine very shortly after you get that engine back together.
I've personally suffered that fate twice with engines that were tampered
with by experienced, but non-Olds mechanics who didn't do the necessary
research to complete their knowledge. I was able to recover from both
experiences and build reliable engines myself, but I didn't have the very
fundamental problems you're having.

Get Help!

Ken H.


Mary Duprey wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 00:45

>
>
> Hey, thanks for the help, unfortunately, having more problems trying to get
> the 455 olds back together. Got new head bolts, got them all torqued down
> and set now seem to be having a problem with rocker arm bolts. Making sure
> lifters are not on lob of camshaft and still unable to torque bolts to the
> required 25' lbs. as in manual. Have snapped off 2 bolts thus far and that's
> only torquing them to 10 to 15' lbs. Anyone have any suggestions or cures
> for this problem? Would really like to use the GMC at least once before the
> snow flys but things just don't seem to be working out. Any help would be
> appreciated. Thanks,
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 455 rebuild [message #96273 is a reply to message #96234] Tue, 17 August 2010 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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Ken
I know where you are coming from on trusting so called experts to build an engine. I got burned one time on a truck camper and that guy knew he was screwing me. These days it is tough to find a good machine shop that can supply you with quality work so we can assemble the engines ourselves .

Roy


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