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Thu, 12 August 2010 22:44  |
Smitty52
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Yahoo!!! Gene and his wife Kathy made it to NY without significant issues. About 100 miles into the trip he lost the cruise control so I need to look into that and a few other things. He took good care of our coach and had to do a lot of little things to make the coach liveable and we appreciate them getting the systems tested and cleaned. The coach does have a lot of road grime that will take a lot of scrubbing tomorrow.
Now we go about making those little changes to make it our own.
Our basic ideas, in no particular order, are to add EFI (the exhaust is real black and sooty so that may be sooner rather than later), A Mac dash, replace the front bearings with the kit Jim K has using Ford sealed hubs and possibly the reactive braking system.
Looks like fun and I will be back often asking for help as I figure out GMC specific systems.
Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
Patriot Guard Rider,
Standing for those who stood for us.
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| Re: It's here!! [message #95630 is a reply to message #95621] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 00:04  |
Ken Burton
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Check the ground on the CC unit itself. Unfortunately GM mounted the cc to the body and grounded it to the body. Ground ing it there the path back to the engine has to go through the engine to frame and body to frame ground straps. I have fixed a few of these by simply cleaning up the connection wire and moving it to the back of the engine where the master ground for the engine system is located.
There are many other things that could also fail but I would check that first.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] It's here!! [message #95669 is a reply to message #95666] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 10:14 |
Smitty52
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Well, first assessment of the day. It needs a pass side boot for the CV joint. Who has those or is there a NAPA number? There are a lot of "Treasures" from the PO's so I have to sort through all of that although I did find a folder with a lot of receipts so I will try to recreate its pedigree and see if there is anything I need to know.
Lots and lots of wires to nowhere. There must be 5 or 6 switches that may have done something at one point in time but appear to just be filling holes in the dash now.
It really loaded up when I started it so I pulled the cover and backed the choke off just hair and it seemed to help but the grass is still blackened at the tailpipe. The 3 plugs I pulled all looked clean though.
I keep finding little storage spots and they all are packed with "stuff". We are going to completely empty the coach today including matress, cushions etc and clean everything. Last will be to clean the carpet.
Then we start on the mechanical issues, which the only significant one is the blackened exhaust. I kinda think that the ultimate solution is EFI. Miguel rebuilt the carb when he did the engine so I hope the short term fix has been taken care of with the choke. Have to drive it and see.
That's all for now, headed out with the wash bucket. Maybe I should first have a moment of silence for the 3000 or so bugs splattered all over the front, top and sides..... Ok, moment's over.
Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
Patriot Guard Rider,
Standing for those who stood for us.
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| Re: It's here!! [message #95671 is a reply to message #95632] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 10:19 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""Excellent. You don't have to go out and look at it ever 5 minutes. It's not going anywhere,
It's yours!
"" I remember when I first got mine, I was so excited I ate and slept in it for 2 days in my driveway!!
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] It's here!! [message #95672 is a reply to message #95669] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 10:23 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""Then we start on the mechanical issues, which the only significant one is the blackened exhaust. I kinda think that the ultimate solution is EFI. Miguel rebuilt the carb when he did the engine so I hope the short term fix has been taken care of with the choke. Have to drive it and see.
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I'm certainly not against EFI, but what you describe is not normal for a carb either--there are several reasons a carb may be running rich and you may be able to correct that quite easily before making the next jump.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] It's here!! [message #95673 is a reply to message #95669] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 10:19 |
gmcrv1
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Ok Wayne,
Go to it!. At least now you have something to do in the spare time you USED
to have. LOL
Again, best of luck!
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@juno.com>wrote:
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> Well, first assessment of the day. It needs a pass side boot for the CV
> joint. Who has those or is there a NAPA number? There are a lot of
> "Treasures" from the PO's so I have to sort through all of that although I
> did find a folder with a lot of receipts so I will try to recreate its
> pedigree and see if there is anything I need to know.
>
> Lots and lots of wires to nowhere. There must be 5 or 6 switches that may
> have done something at one point in time but appear to just be filling holes
> in the dash now.
>
> It really loaded up when I started it so I pulled the cover and backed the
> choke off just hair and it seemed to help but the grass is still blackened
> at the tailpipe. The 3 plugs I pulled all looked clean though.
>
> I keep finding little storage spots and they all are packed with "stuff".
> We are going to completely empty the coach today including matress,
> cushions etc and clean everything. Last will be to clean the carpet.
>
> Then we start on the mechanical issues, which the only significant one is
> the blackened exhaust. I kinda think that the ultimate solution is EFI.
> Miguel rebuilt the carb when he did the engine so I hope the short term fix
> has been taken care of with the choke. Have to drive it and see.
>
> That's all for now, headed out with the wash bucket. Maybe I should first
> have a moment of silence for the 3000 or so bugs splattered all over the
> front, top and sides..... Ok, moment's over.
> --
> Wayne and Lisa,
> Bolton Landing, NY,
>
> 78 Royale center kitchen,
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> Patriot Guard Rider,
> Standing for those who stood for us.
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| Re: [GMCnet] It's here!! [message #95676 is a reply to message #95671] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 10:25 |
gmcrv1
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I Know the feeling. I bought a new Medeco high strength, high security lock
for my driveway gate. If I don't get this thing on the road soon, I'll
forget where I put the key for the darn lock!
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:
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> ""Excellent. You don't have to go out and look at it ever 5 minutes. It's
> not going anywhere,
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> It's yours!
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> "" I remember when I first got mine, I was so excited I ate and slept in it
> for 2 days in my driveway!!
> --
> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] It's here!! [message #95703 is a reply to message #95685] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 14:46 |
Carl S.
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Wayne,
I got my outer CV boots and double bands from Jim Bounds: http://www.gmccoop.com/index.htm But I'm sure any of the other vendors will have them, Jim K. Sirums, etc. I have paid more for certain items this way, but I really like to support our specialty vendors. That way they will still be there the next time I need something.
When I first got my coach two years ago it loaded up badly on cold start-up too. I backed off the choke so that it was barely closed (cold) and that problem was solved. Carburetor or EFI is a personal choice. There are lots of people that are very happy with a well set-up carb, myself included. You won't see any better fuel economy (if you can call it that) with EFI, but it probably does correct some drivability conditions if set up right. I sat through a seminar at GMCMI in Pueblo last year, that just about convinced me to go that way, but, for now, I am going to keep it simple.
Good luck with your new coach. It sounds like you are on the right track. We bought a good running coach and, after two years, I have it just about where I want it , with lots more upgrades on the list.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: It's here!! [message #95704 is a reply to message #95621] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 15:51 |
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Hardie Johnson
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| Smitty52 wrote on Thu, 12 August 2010 23:44 |
<>Our basic ideas, in no particular order, are to add EFI (the exhaust is real black and sooty so that may be sooner rather than later), A Mac dash, replace the front bearings with the kit Jim K has using Ford sealed hubs and possibly the reactive braking system.
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Unless you are entering the Pikes Peak Hill Climb, I believe everything but the Mac Dash is overkill, unless you just want to reduce your cash residual. I would think about a four bag suspension though, since the old bags could leave you stranded.
Lots of people here can help you get the carb right and save $2000. Of course it may get better mileage and start easier . . .
Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
Raleigh NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] It's here!! [message #95732 is a reply to message #95707] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 19:30 |
Smitty52
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We had quite the busy day today. I managed to get all the road grime off the coach and the paint really shines so I feel much better about how it looks. Also managed to get it connected to ground power and switched the fridge over just as the propane tank went to empty.
I backed off the choke a little and the engine does not load as much. I think I will try just a little bit more tomorrow and that should be about as good as a carb can do.
Lisa decided to start cleaning the inside so that is shaping up also. The coach originally had a lounge set up in the back but the PO converted it to a fixed bed. The mattress is not something either of us would ever care to use. Once we had all of that out Lisa likes it a lot better with the lounge as it is more open. All the cushions are gone so we will have to see another coach to figure out the proper setup. For now we will put a nice clean mattress back in and look over options at the GMCMI convention.
Tomorrow it gets waxed and the Alcoas polished.
Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
Patriot Guard Rider,
Standing for those who stood for us.
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| Re: [GMCnet] It's here!! [message #95741 is a reply to message #95732] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 19:58 |
James Hupy
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What I do on those chokes is loosen the three screws holding the bakelite
cover, don't need to take them all the way out. Make sure the engine is
cold, like overnight sitting, turn the bakelite cover until the choke plate
opens, then turn it back while watching the choke plate. Stop turning when
the choke plate just closes. This should get you a quick opening choke plate
if the vacuum pull-off canister is working, and no rich smokey exhaust.
These things all condense some kind of crud in the exhaust system from our
wonderful reformulated gasoline. Many of them puke some type of nasty black
stuff for the first several minutes after starting a cold engine. If that
quits after warmup, that's probably normal. It ain't good, but that is the
way it is.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403 P.S. Don't forget to tighten the three screws.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@juno.com>wrote:
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> We had quite the busy day today. I managed to get all the road grime off
> the coach and the paint really shines so I feel much better about how it
> looks. Also managed to get it connected to ground power and switched the
> fridge over just as the propane tank went to empty.
>
> I backed off the choke a little and the engine does not load as much. I
> think I will try just a little bit more tomorrow and that should be about as
> good as a carb can do.
>
> Lisa decided to start cleaning the inside so that is shaping up also. The
> coach originally had a lounge set up in the back but the PO converted it to
> a fixed bed. The mattress is not something either of us would ever care to
> use. Once we had all of that out Lisa likes it a lot better with the lounge
> as it is more open. All the cushions are gone so we will have to see
> another coach to figure out the proper setup. For now we will put a nice
> clean mattress back in and look over options at the GMCMI convention.
>
> Tomorrow it gets waxed and the Alcoas polished.
> --
> Wayne and Lisa,
> Bolton Landing, NY,
>
> 78 Royale center kitchen,
>
> Patriot Guard Rider,
> Standing for those who stood for us.
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> List Information and Subscription Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] It's here!! [message #95758 is a reply to message #95669] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 21:33 |
midlf
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| Smitty52 wrote on Fri, 13 August 2010 10:14 |
Maybe I should first have a moment of silence for the 3000 or so bugs splattered all over the front, top and sides..... Ok, moment's over.
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Congrats on the "new" coach.
However, only 3000 bugs! This year I could get that many on a Barbie Star Traveler just by running to the end of our driveway and back.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] It's here!! [message #95760 is a reply to message #95758] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 22:03 |
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WD0AFQ
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Easiest way to remove the bugs is dryer sheets and warm water. They wipe right off.
Dan
3 In Stainless Exhaust Headers
One Ton All Discs/Reaction Arm
355 FD/Quad Bag/Alum Radiator Manny Tran/New eng.
Holley EFI/10 Tire Air Monitoring System
Solarized Coach/Upgraded Windows
Satelite TV/On Demand Hot Water/3Way Refer
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