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Thu, 12 August 2010 13:04  |
Larry C
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I don't know if there is an answer to this inquiry but Let me explain.
When I bought the soon to be named Gatsbys' CRUISER  , the PO had redone the interior with a light colored Oak. He skinned the cabinets with the same light Oak. Since the outside of the GMC was old dead paint, it was the interior that sold her.
Now I am well known to not like a lot of processed wood in my living spaces because they never seem to keep that factory finish, through process of time, deterioration and ultra violet rays, the colors change from nice to ugly.
This is what is happening to the interior Light oak factory finish in Gatsbys' CRUISER .. The very nice factory finish is changing to a less then nice Yellowish oak. If I smoked I would blame it on the smoke residue but then I could wash it off.
I can open the drawer and see the factory color where the drawer covers the wood cabinet and where the yellow is appearing.
I know, over time what may happen is PAINT to cover the once lovely, now turning ugly Light Oak wood finish.
Have any of you seen this happen and other then paint or wall paper, what did you do to restore the factory finish??
LarC ( I am a shaper, I have created many wonderful wood products but I am only fair at doing the finishes. )
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wood Cabinet Finish [message #95574 is a reply to message #95544] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 16:57  |
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I have had the same problem with the cabinets that I have made for our
GMC. Started may be 2 or 3 years ago.
This time I will sand them with real fine sand paper and use AUTO
CLEAR COAT it is made to be out side in the UV.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I don't know if there is an answer to this inquiry but Let me explain.
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> When I bought the soon to be named Gatsbys' CRUISER :d , the PO had redone the interior with a light colored Oak. He skinned the cabinets with the same light Oak. Since the outside of the GMC was old dead paint, it was the interior that sold her.
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> Now I am well known to not like a lot of processed wood in my living spaces because they never seem to keep that factory finish, through process of time, deterioration and ultra violet rays, the colors change from nice to ugly.
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> This is what is happening to the interior Light oak factory finish in Gatsbys' CRUISER :d .. The very nice factory finish is changing to a less then nice Yellowish oak. If I smoked I would blame it on the smoke residue but then I could wash it off.
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> I can open the drawer and see the factory color where the drawer covers the wood cabinet and where the yellow is appearing.
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> I know, over time what may happen is PAINT to cover the once lovely, now turning ugly Light Oak wood finish.
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> Have any of you seen this happen and other then paint or wall paper, what did you do to restore the factory finish??
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> LarC ( I am a shaper, I have created many wonderful wood products but I am only fair at doing the finishes. )
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wood Cabinet Finish [message #95629 is a reply to message #95605] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 23:31 |
Larry C
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Try a good clear polyurethane. Such as Varathane or Minwax. This will hold up extremely well and will not darken or discolor. It comes in gloss and saiin.
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I am guessing this means I would have to sand the cabinets down. Ok, but the drawer fronts and wall panels are not solid wood, they are veneer. The last time I tried to sand veneer, I sanded through it to the second layer of grub wood.
Just thinking
LarC ( I knew this was gonna get ugly )
Gatsbys' CRUISER 08-18-04
74 GLACIER X, 260/455-APC-4 Bagg'r
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wood Cabinet Finish [message #95648 is a reply to message #95629] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 06:19 |
gmcrv1
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Larry,
My Dad used to do all kinds of custom finishing. First try Ivory soap and
water. Do not flood the wood. Use as a damp or slightly wet wipe down. If
the wood starts to clean up, try it again. If that doesn't work try some
0000 steel wool and turpentiine. Again, you are not trying to remove all
the finish, just the crud on the surface. These two processes were used on
finishes that either had years of wax/polish build up or the yellowing
stains from a smoking environment.
There used to be a product called "Liquid Gold" which is a furniture wash -
use it as you would the Ivory soap. First with a rag and if you need to get
more aggressive go to the 0000 steel wool. Read the label. It may tell you
not to use steel wool, then use the 3M type abrasive pads. Make sure you
use the ones equal to 0000 steel wool.
The last resort before actually stripping the finish is to use something
like the old Homer Formbey's refinisher in a can. I'm not sure if Homer or
his products are still around, but they are designed to melt the actual
finish and re-blend the softened/melted finish with the solvent based
product and padding out the finish until uniform. Most people that used
this over the counter refinish did not apply enough of the "Formbey's" and
left the finish looking "thin".
Of course, if non of this works to your satisfaction - you could use an
industrial finish remover/stripper. The good, old but toxic ones were
methylene chloride based. Apply with an old paint brush in one direction
and let the stripper do the work. Lightly scrape off the old finish.
When you have the wood looking pretty clean, using 0000 steel wool wash the
remaining finish off using a good amount of alcohol. Then repeat with
alcohol and a rag. The steel wool and alcohol wash is to remove the
remaining finish in the small pores of the wood.
Allow to dry. Sanding should not be required as the steel wool has acted as
a wet sand throughout the process.
Go pick out the stain and finish system you like. Old secret - stay within
the product line. Minwax stain, Minwax sealer and Minwax top coat etc.
Of course this is for real wood - or wood veneer. Not the contact paper
or plastic woods.
Note. Use chemical gloves, splash goggles etc when working with the more
aggressive products. Test the turpentine process in an inconspicuous area.
Adequate ventilation.
That's about it. It's not all I know - but it is about all I can remember!
Good Luck - Results not gauranteed, your results may vary.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Try a good clear polyurethane. Such as Varathane or Minwax. This will hold
> up extremely well and will not darken or discolor. It comes in gloss and
> saiin.
> ________________________________________________________
>
>
> I am guessing this means I would have to sand the cabinets down. Ok, but
> the drawer fronts and wall panels are not solid wood, they are veneer. The
> last time I tried to sand veneer, I sanded through it to the second layer of
> grub wood.
>
> Just thinking
>
> LarC ( I knew this was gonna get ugly )
>
>
> --
> Gatsbys' CRUISER :d
> 74 GLACIER X, 260
> 455/APC/4 bagg'r(ver3)
> Remflex Manifold gaskets
> _______________________________________________
> Purchased 08-18-04
>
> _
>
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>
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| Re: Wood Cabinet Finish [message #95690 is a reply to message #95544] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 12:30 |
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cbwoodsr
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Anybody have an upper cabinet drivers side, above the stove around OKC?
Water messed up mine in that area.
Thankx
CBWood
77 Kingslay
MWC OK
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