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[GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ? [message #95347] Wed, 11 August 2010 15:51 Go to next message
kelvin is currently offline  kelvin   United States
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Back when I installed a new set of plugs the general consensus was that
the ACDelco R46SZ were a good choice. Considering I've had them in
there a bit longer than I should have and the coach still runs great I'm
a believer. About 12,000 miles on these - and yes... they've overdue
for a change.

I remember there was a recommendation for gapping, too. Some suggested
a big gap and others said smaller. I'm running one of Dick Patersen's
HEIs on my '73 455, if that matters. Hard to measure what the gap is
now and I didn't keep good records when I first started on this thing...

And has spark plug technology changed enough that the recommendation is
different now, 7 years later?

Anyway...
What recommended gap for the R46SZ
What plug might be better.

Thanks,
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR


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Re: [GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ? [message #95348 is a reply to message #95347] Wed, 11 August 2010 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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I have in my records that the old R46SZ plugs were gaped at .060

When I installed the new AC #7 Rapid Fire's, it was recommended to gap them at
.035

Ray


Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
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From: Kelvin Dietz <kelvin@datsuns.com>
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Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 3:51:02 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ?

Back when I installed a new set of plugs the general consensus was that
the ACDelco R46SZ were a good choice. Considering I've had them in
there a bit longer than I should have and the coach still runs great I'm
a believer. About 12,000 miles on these - and yes... they've overdue
for a change.

I remember there was a recommendation for gapping, too. Some suggested
a big gap and others said smaller. I'm running one of Dick Patersen's
HEIs on my '73 455, if that matters. Hard to measure what the gap is
now and I didn't keep good records when I first started on this thing...

And has spark plug technology changed enough that the recommendation is
different now, 7 years later?

Anyway...
What recommended gap for the R46SZ
What plug might be better.

Thanks,
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR


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Re: [GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ? [message #95350 is a reply to message #95348] Wed, 11 August 2010 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KRDietz is currently offline  KRDietz   United States
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The AC #7 is one I saw recommended on Mr ERF's site "by Dick Patersen
and others."


Ray Erspamer wrote:
> I have in my records that the old R46SZ plugs were gaped at .060
>
> When I installed the new AC #7 Rapid Fire's, it was recommended to gap them at
> .035
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Kelvin Dietz <kelvin@datsuns.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 3:51:02 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ?
>
> Back when I installed a new set of plugs the general consensus was that
> the ACDelco R46SZ were a good choice. Considering I've had them in
> there a bit longer than I should have and the coach still runs great I'm
> a believer. About 12,000 miles on these - and yes... they've overdue
> for a change.
>
> I remember there was a recommendation for gapping, too. Some suggested
> a big gap and others said smaller. I'm running one of Dick Patersen's
> HEIs on my '73 455, if that matters. Hard to measure what the gap is
> now and I didn't keep good records when I first started on this thing...
>
> And has spark plug technology changed enough that the recommendation is
> different now, 7 years later?
>
> Anyway...
> What recommended gap for the R46SZ
> What plug might be better.
>
> Thanks,
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ? [message #95356 is a reply to message #95347] Wed, 11 August 2010 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Kevin,
Here is a list of plug that fit the coach that I put together a couple
of month ago.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5237/Spark_Plug_Application_Gu.pdf

JR Wright


> Back when I installed a new set of plugs the general consensus was
> that
> the ACDelco R46SZ were a good choice. Considering I've had them in
> there a bit longer than I should have and the coach still runs great
> I'm
> a believer. About 12,000 miles on these - and yes... they've overdue
> for a change.
>
> I remember there was a recommendation for gapping, too. Some
> suggested
> a big gap and others said smaller. I'm running one of Dick Patersen's
> HEIs on my '73 455, if that matters. Hard to measure what the gap is
> now and I didn't keep good records when I first started on this
> thing...
>
> And has spark plug technology changed enough that the recommendation
> is
> different now, 7 years later?
>
> Anyway...
> What recommended gap for the R46SZ
> What plug might be better.
>
> Thanks,
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ? [message #95359 is a reply to message #95356] Wed, 11 August 2010 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Rapidfire #7. Gap out of the box should be okay, but check to see that it is 0.035 or 0.040.
Dick Paterson's recomendation and I run very well with these.
Tom Phipps,
75 GMC w/ all Dick Paterson ignition stuff.


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Re: [GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ? [message #95364 is a reply to message #95359] Wed, 11 August 2010 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KRDietz is currently offline  KRDietz   United States
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Nobody stocks them around here, including my "warehouse" connection.
On order from Rock Auto for ~$33 shipped.

Never need to replace spark plugs again if all goes well.

Thanks everyone,
Kelvin
> Rapidfire #7. Gap out of the box should be okay, but check to see that it is 0.035 or 0.040.
> Dick Paterson's recomendation and I run very well with these.
> Tom Phipps,
> 75 GMC w/ all Dick Paterson ignition stuff.
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Re: [GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ? [message #95409 is a reply to message #95347] Wed, 11 August 2010 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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The big numbers like .70 were the initial GM recommendations that were superceeded by a smaller gap shortly after HEI was introduced IIRC. The fat gap made for a fat spark with the HEI under ideal conditions, but really taxed the system and encouraged the spark to find a easier path to ground besides the plug.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] New Spark Plugs...AC Delco R46SZ? [message #95430 is a reply to message #95409] Wed, 11 August 2010 22:28 Go to previous message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Ac Delco #7. Gap .035" to .040" They will last until the next time you change your engine.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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