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Type of paint [message #95323] Wed, 11 August 2010 10:37 Go to next message
cbwoodsr is currently offline  cbwoodsr   United States
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How can you tell if the paint the PO had done is lacquer or enamel..
It's needing a wax job, and it's not fun doing it by hand.
The top is a faded gray which is running down the side when it rains.
Wanted to at least sand it done and redo it, but dont know whether to use lacquer or enamel.
Was just going to use spray can white.

Thankx


CBWood
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Re: Type of paint [message #95326 is a reply to message #95323] Wed, 11 August 2010 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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Laquer hasn't been used for many years. As it gets older, you would see small "weather checks" in it. Chances are it's an oil base paint. Use a buffer made just for auto paint. It runs much slower than others. You can get liquid polish and squirt it on, then buff.
Re: [GMCnet] Type of paint [message #95336 is a reply to message #95326] Wed, 11 August 2010 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gmcrv1 is currently offline  gmcrv1   United States
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Take a little lacquer thinner and test a small area inside the propane or
gen set door. If no color comes off you probably have Imron or some other
urethane type paint. If you''re going to repaint, Dupont made a
product that I think was called primer/sealer/surfacer 100S. Depending on
what you used as the thinning solvent, it could be used as any one of the
above, I took a brand new E150 Ford years back and two toned it with
lacquer over factory fresh (less than 5 months old) enamel using the 100S as
a sealer. They said it couldn't be done. Looked great even 10 years
later. I got the idea from one of the hot rod magazines. I'm sure your
local paint supply house could help you out. Or try web sites for Dupont, R
& M Sherwin Williams etc.

Good luck,

Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
O9akland, TN

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, David H. Jarvis <jarvis210@shaw.ca> wrote:

>
>
> Laquer hasn't been used for many years. As it gets older, you would see
> small "weather checks" in it. Chances are it's an oil base paint. Use a
> buffer made just for auto paint. It runs much slower than others. You can
> get liquid polish and squirt it on, then buff.
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Re: [GMCnet] Type of paint [message #95396 is a reply to message #95336] Wed, 11 August 2010 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Arthur Mansfield is currently offline  Arthur Mansfield   United States
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I do not know what yours is painted with. I checked a few years ago in the manual and it said do not use lacquer. To use lacquer it would require a good sealer then I assume lacquer would be ok and stated by Tom.

Art & Doris
76 EL
On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Tom Eckert wrote:

> Take a little lacquer thinner and test a small area inside the propane or
> gen set door. If no color comes off you probably have Imron or some other
> urethane type paint. If you''re going to repaint, Dupont made a
> product that I think was called primer/sealer/surfacer 100S. Depending on
> what you used as the thinning solvent, it could be used as any one of the
> above, I took a brand new E150 Ford years back and two toned it with
> lacquer over factory fresh (less than 5 months old) enamel using the 100S as
> a sealer. They said it couldn't be done. Looked great even 10 years
> later. I got the idea from one of the hot rod magazines. I'm sure your
> local paint supply house could help you out. Or try web sites for Dupont, R
> & M Sherwin Williams etc.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Tom Eckert N2VWN
> 73 Glacier
> O9akland, TN
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, David H. Jarvis <jarvis210@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Laquer hasn't been used for many years. As it gets older, you would see
>> small "weather checks" in it. Chances are it's an oil base paint. Use a
>> buffer made just for auto paint. It runs much slower than others. You can
>> get liquid polish and squirt it on, then buff.
>> --
>> "I've always been crazy, but it kept me from going insane"
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Re: [GMCnet] Type of paint [message #95399 is a reply to message #95396] Wed, 11 August 2010 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gmcrv1 is currently offline  gmcrv1   United States
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Again, that was years ago and paint technology has progressed by leaps and
bounds. I have seen clear coat applied over base coats that any refinisher
years ago would have a heart attack. Either way, it's all in the prep.
Another piece of advice from my Dad who for over 40 years was a custom
finisher told me "Whatever product you use - use all of the component
materials from the same manufacturer". Dupont primer, Dupont sealer, Dupont
thinners, Dupont base & clear coats - very important to stay within the
manufacturere's product line.

Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Arthur Mansfield <1104agm@gmail.com> wrote:

> I do not know what yours is painted with. I checked a few years ago in the
> manual and it said do not use lacquer. To use lacquer it would require a
> good sealer then I assume lacquer would be ok and stated by Tom.
>
> Art & Doris
> 76 EL
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Tom Eckert wrote:
>
> > Take a little lacquer thinner and test a small area inside the propane or
> > gen set door. If no color comes off you probably have Imron or some
> other
> > urethane type paint. If you''re going to repaint, Dupont made a
> > product that I think was called primer/sealer/surfacer 100S. Depending
> on
> > what you used as the thinning solvent, it could be used as any one of the
> > above, I took a brand new E150 Ford years back and two toned it with
> > lacquer over factory fresh (less than 5 months old) enamel using the 100S
> as
> > a sealer. They said it couldn't be done. Looked great even 10 years
> > later. I got the idea from one of the hot rod magazines. I'm sure your
> > local paint supply house could help you out. Or try web sites for
> Dupont, R
> > & M Sherwin Williams etc.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Tom Eckert N2VWN
> > 73 Glacier
> > O9akland, TN
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, David H. Jarvis <jarvis210@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Laquer hasn't been used for many years. As it gets older, you would see
> >> small "weather checks" in it. Chances are it's an oil base paint. Use a
> >> buffer made just for auto paint. It runs much slower than others. You
> can
> >> get liquid polish and squirt it on, then buff.
> >> --
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Re: Type of paint [message #95406 is a reply to message #95323] Wed, 11 August 2010 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used Centari enamel to fix some bad spots. It went on great over the Immeron as well as on areas that had been previously repaired and were unknown type of paint.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Type of paint [message #95446 is a reply to message #95406] Thu, 12 August 2010 03:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The problems will occur when you try to put laquers over enamels it will
'fry up'. Enamels are generally okay over other paints but not the other way
around.
Peter Bailey
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>
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> I used Centari enamel to fix some bad spots. It went on great over the
> Immeron as well as on areas that had been previously repaired and were
> unknown type of paint.
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Re: Type of paint [message #95449 is a reply to message #95323] Thu, 12 August 2010 05:48 Go to previous message
Rusty is currently offline  Rusty   United States
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I thought after I had my coach painted at TG last year I would be able to never see the faded grey streaks from rain, running down the side, ever again. Wrong. I've come to the conclusion they are from pollen or dust in the air. The new paint however, makes those streaks a whole lot easier to wipe off.

Rusty
75 Glenbrook
Philadelphia Pa
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