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Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93719] Wed, 28 July 2010 21:49 Go to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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We are planning an excursion that will take us through Canada. We cross into Canada frequently, but have never done so in the coach and with our dog.

We have the rabies certificate (for the dog only), and I will remove all the firearms, ammunition and potatoes before we go.

Is there anything else I should be aware of?
And
If an inspection is required, how long does that usually take?

Matt


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Re: Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93720 is a reply to message #93719] Wed, 28 July 2010 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You wikk need a Passport & Canadian Insurance Card _
We Cross at Port Huron Often


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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93721 is a reply to message #93720] Wed, 28 July 2010 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:53 PM, J A Holland <acts238bishop@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>
> You wikk need a Passport & Canadian Insurance Card
> --
> Joe & Lavelle of ALEBAMY
>
>
Is this something new? I have been in Canada several times in the
past with my GMC and I have never needed a Canadian insurance card. I
have only had my USA proof of insurance but have never been asked for it

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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93736 is a reply to message #93719] Wed, 28 July 2010 23:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Mumert   United States
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Hi Matt

Here are a couple of sites that gives information
http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/americans_canada.asp
http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/travel_to_canada.asp

The official source is Canada Border Services at
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5082-eng.html

Border wait times are shown here
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/bwt-taf/menu-eng.html

Crossing into Canada with your couch should be no different than with your
car. Your dog will need a rabies certificate from a vet that adequately
describes him. ( i.e. not just Matt's dog). Vaccination must be within the
last 3 years.

I have never heard of anyone being asked for proof of insurance but it would
be a good idea to verify coverage with your insurance provider.

Where are you headed in Canada?

Have a good trip.

Dave Mumert
Calgary, Alberta


> Subject: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada?
>
> We are planning an excursion that will take us through Canada. We cross
into
> Canada frequently, but have never done so in the coach and with our dog.
>
> We have the rabies certificate (for the dog only), and I will remove all
the
> firearms, ammunition and potatoes before we go.
>
> Is there anything else I should be aware of?
> And
> If an inspection is required, how long does that usually take?
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist

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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93750 is a reply to message #93736] Thu, 29 July 2010 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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You only need a passport to get back in to your own country.
Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93754 is a reply to message #93750] Thu, 29 July 2010 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob Horton is currently offline  Bob Horton   Canada
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Crossing into Canada

WE cross fairly regularly into the USA and back to Canada. One thing we have learned is to avoid taking any perishable items such as fruit, vegatables, and meat across the border (irregardless of which side).(Bananas seem to be an exception) Both sides have inumerable restrictions on such things and they seem to change daily. Just buy what you need on either side of the border. Liquer and cigarettes will be a problem unless bought at a duty free shop. Better leave guns at home unless you are hunting in which case you will have to check the rules.

We try to avoid the main border crossings and are lucky that there are many small stations between Manitoba and North Dakota - although they work on restricted hours. The staff on both sides are less hassled and friendlier. Also there is little or no wait.Someone has already mentioned that you need a passport to get back into the US - but a passport also speeds things up here. Gas up before you cross the border as we like to pay more for gas up here.

Bob Horton
Brandon, Manitoba
Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93760 is a reply to message #93721] Thu, 29 July 2010 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In most Canadian provinces you need PROOF of Insurance in th eform of an original insurance slip. Unless there's been a change in the past week or so, you do not need 'Canadian' insurance. Most of the insurance companies are US based anyway, so what would be the point?

Scott Sudbury, ON, Canada



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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:57:59 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada?
>
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:53 PM, J A Holland <acts238bishop@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > You wikk need a Passport & Canadian Insurance Card
> > --
> > Joe & Lavelle of ALEBAMY
> >
> >
> Is this something new? I have been in Canada several times in the
> past with my GMC and I have never needed a Canadian insurance card. I
> have only had my USA proof of insurance but have never been asked for it
>
> Emery Stora
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93762 is a reply to message #93754] Thu, 29 July 2010 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Netters

I'm gonna stay out of this, but if you start mouthing off at the boarder,
expect them to find something. Keep you opinions and political beliefs to
yourself and you will be waved through.
You will now need a passport to get back into the US and Canada following US
direction, now 'asks' for one as you enter Canada.

We aren't a Foreign country up here, just another....

Mike in NS



On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Bob Horton <bobsgmc@mts.net> wrote:

>
>
> Crossing into Canada
>
> WE cross fairly regularly into the USA and back to Canada. One thing we
> have learned is to avoid taking any perishable items such as fruit,
> vegatables, and meat across the border (irregardless of which side).(Bananas
> seem to be an exception) Both sides have inumerable restrictions on such
> things and they seem to change daily. Just buy what you need on either side
> of the border. Liquer and cigarettes will be a problem unless bought at a
> duty free shop. Better leave guns at home unless you are hunting in which
> case you will have to check the rules.
>
> We try to avoid the main border crossings and are lucky that there are many
> small stations between Manitoba and North Dakota - although they work on
> restricted hours. The staff on both sides are less hassled and friendlier.
> Also there is little or no wait.Someone has already mentioned that you need
> a passport to get back into the US - but a passport also speeds things up
> here. Gas up before you cross the border as we like to pay more for gas up
> here.
>
> Bob Horton
> Brandon, Manitoba
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93772 is a reply to message #93736] Thu, 29 July 2010 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Dave Mumert wrote on Thu, 29 July 2010 00:06

Hi Matt

Here are a couple of sites that gives information
http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/americans_canada.asp
http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/travel_to_canada.asp

The official source is Canada Border Services at
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5082-eng.html

Border wait times are shown here
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/bwt-taf/menu-eng.html

Crossing into Canada with your couch should be no different than with your car. Your dog will need a rabies certificate from a vet that adequately describes him. ( i.e. not just Matt's dog). Vaccination must be within the last 3 years.

I have never heard of anyone being asked for proof of insurance but it would be a good idea to verify coverage with your insurance provider.

Where are you headed in Canada?

Have a good trip.

Dave Mumert
Calgary, Alberta


Dave,

We are planing to track through Canada to both London ON and Ottawa ON either one way or the other on the way to Albany NY. My wife has family in Canada and we are headed for some sort of a school reunion in Albany. The actual plan is not yet solid.

The question came up because an individual (not a friend or associate) reported a very bad time crossing the border. He reported that his coach was inspected for several hours. He was also not clear about which way he was going.

By the way, the crossing times published were junk - at least at the Detroit crossings. One time we set out for a "no delay" crossing at the Ambassador Bridge only to get stopped before we were mid-bridge. (Don't get me started about that.)

Thanks
Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93782 is a reply to message #93762] Thu, 29 July 2010 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
storm'n is currently offline  storm'n   United States
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 Based on many years experience crossing the boarder, keep it simple. When you pull up ,shut off your motor, take off your sunglasses & smile. Give 1 word answers to the questions & do not elaborate. We have never had a problem at any crossing. Going to Florida,1 boarder guard asked if we had room for him. I asked if his bag was packed & lets go. He laughed & waved us thru.




Netters

I'm gonna stay out of this, but if you start mouthing off at the boarder,
expect them to find something. Keep you opinions and political beliefs to
yourself  and you will be waved through.
You will now need a passport to get back into the US and Canada following US
direction, now 'asks' for one as you enter Canada.

We aren't a Foreign country up here, just another....

Mike in NS



On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Bob Horton <bobsgmc@mts.net> wrote:

>
>
> Crossing into Canada
>
> WE cross fairly regularly into the USA and back to Canada.  One thing we
> have learned is to avoid taking any perishable items such as fruit,
> vegatables, and meat across the border (irregardless of which side).(Bananas
> seem to be an exception)   Both sides have inumerable restrictions on such
> things and they seem to change daily.  Just buy what you need on either side
> of the border.  Liquer and cigarettes will be a problem unless bought at a
> duty free shop. Better leave guns at home unless you are hunting in which
> case you will have to check the rules.
>
> We try to avoid the main border crossings and are lucky that there are many
> small stations between Manitoba and North Dakota - although they work on
> restricted hours.  The staff on both sides are less hassled and friendlier.
> Also there is little or no wait.Someone has already mentioned that you need
> a passport to get back into the US - but a passport also speeds things up
> here. Gas up before you cross the border as we like to pay more for gas up
> here.
>
> Bob Horton
> Brandon, Manitoba
>
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Re: Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93785 is a reply to message #93719] Thu, 29 July 2010 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt,
Cross at Port Huron/Sarnia if at all possible. There is much less traffic there compared to Detroit / Windsor so the delay is usually minimal.
The 402 from Sarnia to London is less crowded than the 401 from Windsor as well, making for a more pleasant drive.

I think its a crap shoot whether you breeze through or get hassled. If the Border Guard is having a bad day or gets attitude then you might not have a good experience.

Have your passports ready, answer the questions short'n sweet, don't try to hide anything and you should have no issues.

Last time I took the coach to the US, they were more interested my my "Cool RV" than anything else.

Coming home they are more interested in making sure they collect all the taxes on any purchases.

Oh.. and I can't speak french either. If I was to learn another language it would be Spanish.


Bruce Hislop
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Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93818 is a reply to message #93750] Thu, 29 July 2010 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Harry wrote on Thu, 29 July 2010 00:47

You only need a passport to get back in to your own country.

Not quite true any more.

The Canadians are requiring a passport, a passport card, an enhanced drivers license, or Nexus from us now because they do not want to get stuck with us when the US will not accept us back again on the return trip.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93821 is a reply to message #93719] Thu, 29 July 2010 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jade is currently offline  jade   United States
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Matt;
We bought our coach in 1983 and took a 3 week trip to the Canadian Rockies.
They did search our coach for weapons and alchahol.
That was before you needed a passport.
Never had a problem in 27 years.
JADE
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Subject: [GMCnet] Taking the coach through Canada?


>
>
> We are planning an excursion that will take us through Canada. We cross
> into Canada frequently, but have never done so in the coach and with our
> dog.
>
> We have the rabies certificate (for the dog only), and I will remove all
> the firearms, ammunition and potatoes before we go.
>
> Is there anything else I should be aware of?
> And
> If an inspection is required, how long does that usually take?
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
> SE Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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Re: Taking the coach through Canada? [message #93822 is a reply to message #93719] Thu, 29 July 2010 12:00 Go to previous message
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mcolie wrote on Wed, 28 July 2010 19:49

We are planning an excursion that will take us through Canada.

Is there anything else I should be aware of?

Matt


As others have said, the experience you may have can be highly variable, even at the smallest and most obscure border crossing stations. I have had most pleasant and most snarly experiences with no reason why, on both sides.

Take off your sunglasses, look the guard straight in the eyes, answer all questions with the truth, volunteer nothing additional and have a passport or passcard available for each person. Without one or the other, you will not be able to either get in or out. If you have the motorhome, or any RV, be sure you can unlock each and every exterior compartment if they want to look in. Lost keys, etc are just red flags to them.

If you do not have a passport or passcard, you will need to get one, and that takes considerable time. I had to get a new "official" birth certificate because the one issued by the hospital where I was born, complete with baby footprints on the back, was not "official" even though I have used it for 68 years as such. That added to my passcard delay. Figure about 6 weeks unless you want to pay through the nose for various expedited services.

Enjoy your visit, Canada and Canadians are wonderful.



Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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