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Mon, 26 July 2010 18:54  |
Kingsley Coach
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Netters
My generator will not start with the interior switch....it does nothing.
Somewhere, I know there is a trouble shooting guide probably made by Dwayne
Simmons that tells what wires to jump on the generator board itself to
determine if the board or the switch is at fault...
Now where would I find that guide??
Thanks
Mike in NS
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start [message #93360 is a reply to message #93357] |
Mon, 26 July 2010 19:08  |
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Dennis
Thanks....but I was sure it was written in English...<VBG>
Mike
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:00 PM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Well Mike,
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> Pls see the link to GMCWS
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> http://gmcws.org/Tech/dsimmons/dsimmons.html
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> Dennis Sexton
> 73 PD 230
> Germantown, TN
> USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>
> To: Gmclist <Gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 6:54 pm
> Subject: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start
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> Netters
> My generator will not start with the interior switch....it does nothing.
> omewhere, I know there is a trouble shooting guide probably made by Dwayne
> immons that tells what wires to jump on the generator board itself to
> etermine if the board or the switch is at fault...
> Now where would I find that guide??
> Thanks
> Mike in NS
> --
> ichael Beaton
> 977 Kingsley 26-11
> 977 Eleganza II 26-3
> ntigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start [message #93364 is a reply to message #93356] |
Mon, 26 July 2010 19:24 |
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| Kingsley Coach wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 19:54 |
Netters
My generator will not start with the interior switch....it does nothing.
Somewhere, I know there is a trouble shooting guide probably made by Dwayne
Simmons that tells what wires to jump on the generator board itself to
determine if the board or the switch is at fault...
Now where would I find that guide??
Thanks
Mike in NS
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Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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Sir: There is a 4 wire connector behind the Onan going to the inside of the coach. They a famous for coroding. Here are the manuals.
http://www.bdub.net/manuals/index.html
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start [message #93365 is a reply to message #93356] |
Mon, 26 July 2010 19:26 |
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| Kingsley Coach wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 17:54 |
Netters
My generator will not start with the interior switch....it does nothing.
Somewhere, I know there is a trouble shooting guide probably made by Dwayne
Simmons that tells what wires to jump on the generator board itself to
determine if the board or the switch is at fault...
Now where would I find that guide??
Thanks
Mike in NS
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Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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If it starts at the generator itself, it is not the board. There is the infamous plug that connects all of the wires from the board to the remote harness--this is almost always the problem. Disconnect it and spray some Eagle mag cleaner on both sides and it will totally remove the oxidation from the pins. Another common spot is where the individual connectors plug into the control board. Pull them all off and clean each and every spade and plug.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start [message #93382 is a reply to message #93365] |
Mon, 26 July 2010 20:43 |
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On Jul 26, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Bob de Kruyff wrote:
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> Kingsley Coach wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 17:54
>> Netters
>>
>> My generator will not start with the interior switch....it does nothing.
>> Somewhere, I know there is a trouble shooting guide probably made by Dwayne
>> Simmons that tells what wires to jump on the generator board itself to
>> determine if the board or the switch is at fault...
>>
>> Now where would I find that guide??
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike in NS
>>
>> --
>> Michael Beaton
>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>> Antigonish, NS
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> If it starts at the generator itself, it is not the board. There is the infamous plug that connects all of the wires from the board to the remote harness--this is almost always the problem. Disconnect it and spray some Eagle mag cleaner on both sides and it will totally remove the oxidation from the pins. Another common spot is where the individual connectors plug into the control board. Pull them all off and clean each and every spade and plug.
> --
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Better yet, cut each wire on each side of the connector. Put on some heat shrink tubing and solder the wires together. Repeat for all wires and this eliminated the problem of corrosion in the plug.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start [message #93421 is a reply to message #93357] |
Tue, 27 July 2010 07:22 |
Steven Ferguson
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Michael,
I go through that once a year. find the connector from the house
switches to the Onan, they're right next to the control board,
separate the two halves of the connector and give both sides a good
shot of ele contact cleaner, do it more than once. Reassemble after
they dry and try the remote switch again. It should work. Duane has
always recommended hardwiring this connector as it is a big cause of
problems.
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:00 PM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Well Mike,
>
> Pls see the link to GMCWS
>
> http://gmcws.org/Tech/dsimmons/dsimmons.html
>
>
> Dennis Sexton
> 73 PD 230
> Germantown, TN
> USA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>
> To: Gmclist <Gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 6:54 pm
> Subject: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start
>
>
> Netters
> My generator will not start with the interior switch....it does nothing.
> omewhere, I know there is a trouble shooting guide probably made by Dwayne
> immons that tells what wires to jump on the generator board itself to
> etermine if the board or the switch is at fault...
> Now where would I find that guide??
> Thanks
> Mike in NS
> --
> ichael Beaton
> 977 Kingsley 26-11
> 977 Eleganza II 26-3
> ntigonish, NS
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Sierra Vista, AZ
Urethane bushing source
www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start [message #93427 is a reply to message #93421] |
Tue, 27 July 2010 08:19 |
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Gentlemen
I've separated the white square connector at the board and cleaned with an
electrical spray product ..and the board connectors themselves....in the
back of my mind I thought there was another connector somewhere down-under
there (maybe I should have Rob look for me) that should be checked...a 4 pin
you say !
I remember seeing something like that a few years ago...could be 10 or
more...and thought I should check it out.
Well, today is the day !
Today I go in search of the 4 pin connector..........I shall return !
Mike in NS
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
> Michael,
> I go through that once a year. find the connector from the house
> switches to the Onan, they're right next to the control board,
> separate the two halves of the connector and give both sides a good
> shot of ele contact cleaner, do it more than once. Reassemble after
> they dry and try the remote switch again. It should work. Duane has
> always recommended hardwiring this connector as it is a big cause of
> problems.
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:00 PM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well Mike,
> >
> > Pls see the link to GMCWS
> >
> > http://gmcws.org/Tech/dsimmons/dsimmons.html
> >
> >
> > Dennis Sexton
> > 73 PD 230
> > Germantown, TN
> > USA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>
> > To: Gmclist <Gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> > Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 6:54 pm
> > Subject: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start
> >
> >
> > Netters
> > My generator will not start with the interior switch....it does nothing.
> > omewhere, I know there is a trouble shooting guide probably made by
> Dwayne
> > immons that tells what wires to jump on the generator board itself to
> > etermine if the board or the switch is at fault...
> > Now where would I find that guide??
> > Thanks
> > Mike in NS
> > --
> > ichael Beaton
> > 977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > ntigonish, NS
> > ______________________________________________
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> '76 EII
> Sierra Vista, AZ
> Urethane bushing source
> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start [message #93442 is a reply to message #93427] |
Tue, 27 July 2010 10:12 |
Kingsley Coach
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Netters
It was the 4 pin connector. I was having intermittent starting problems
from inside the coach 2 years ago. This year it wouldn't function at all.
One wire was corroded completely off and a second was in poor shape.
I hard wired and tested...primes, starts and runs well...and also shuts off
!
Now to finish up!
Thank you one and all.
Mike n NS
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>wrote:
> Gentlemen
>
> I've separated the white square connector at the board and cleaned with an
> electrical spray product ..and the board connectors themselves....in the
> back of my mind I thought there was another connector somewhere down-under
> there (maybe I should have Rob look for me) that should be checked...a 4 pin
> you say !
> I remember seeing something like that a few years ago...could be 10 or
> more...and thought I should check it out.
> Well, today is the day !
> Today I go in search of the 4 pin connector..........I shall return !
>
> Mike in NS
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>> I go through that once a year. find the connector from the house
>> switches to the Onan, they're right next to the control board,
>> separate the two halves of the connector and give both sides a good
>> shot of ele contact cleaner, do it more than once. Reassemble after
>> they dry and try the remote switch again. It should work. Duane has
>> always recommended hardwiring this connector as it is a big cause of
>> problems.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:00 PM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Well Mike,
>> >
>> > Pls see the link to GMCWS
>> >
>> > http://gmcws.org/Tech/dsimmons/dsimmons.html
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis Sexton
>> > 73 PD 230
>> > Germantown, TN
>> > USA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>
>> > To: Gmclist <Gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>> > Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 6:54 pm
>> > Subject: [GMCnet] Inside generator No Start
>> >
>> >
>> > Netters
>> > My generator will not start with the interior switch....it does nothing.
>> > omewhere, I know there is a trouble shooting guide probably made by
>> Dwayne
>> > immons that tells what wires to jump on the generator board itself to
>> > etermine if the board or the switch is at fault...
>> > Now where would I find that guide??
>> > Thanks
>> > Mike in NS
>> > --
>> > ichael Beaton
>> > 977 Kingsley 26-11
>> > 977 Eleganza II 26-3
>> > ntigonish, NS
>> > ______________________________________________
>> > MCnet mailing list
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Steve Ferguson
>> '76 EII
>> Sierra Vista, AZ
>> Urethane bushing source
>> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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> --
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
>
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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