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Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93274]

Mon, 26 July 2010 08:55

Little Yimmy

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On the last trip out, my compressor motor turned toes up. My compressor was put in by a PO. It is my understanding, from talking with local club members, that Darcy Moses built AND installed the unit on what is currently my coach. My questions: has anyone who has one of these units on their coach had a similar problem? If so, did you find a suitable replacement motor? Did it fit in the space allotted with minimal modifications?

Thanks.

Little Yimmy - W9VUA
75 PB - F260206
Twin Cities, MN

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Re: Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93275 is a reply to message #93274]

Mon, 26 July 2010 10:43

Keith V

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What failed? The motor or the compressor itself?

I've been wanting to do a york system like Darcy did but the motor is hard to come by, not to mention it's a ways down the priority list.

If it's the compressor, yorks are around.

Don't toss the system if you decide not to use it. If nothing else there are parts I'd want.

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Re: [GMCnet] Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93280 is a reply to message #93274]

Mon, 26 July 2010 11:18

Charles

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Jim,
On the york compressor units Bill Bramlet makes he uses
starter generators like the ones used in golf carts. I bought
one off of Ebay that I used on mine.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4269

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=15357&cat=4327

Charles

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Re: Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93284 is a reply to message #93274]

Mon, 26 July 2010 11:33

bryant374

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Darcy Moses' compressor Mon, 26 July 2010 09:55
Jim Melberg

On the last trip out, my compressor motor turned toes up. My compressor was put in by a PO. It is my understanding, from talking with local club members, that Darcy Moses built AND installed the unit on what is currently my coach. My questions: has anyone who has one of these units on their coach had a similar problem? If so, did you find a suitable replacement motor? Did it fit in the space allotted with minimal modifications?

Thanks.

The starter motor Darcy used was from the small 4cyl GM cars. He had to make a new end plate to hold the bearing on the drive end. The armature shaft was modified to accept the pulley. Sounds like the golf cart starter/generator would make an excellent replacement.

Bill Bryant
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1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
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Re: [GMCnet] Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93293 is a reply to message #93275]

Mon, 26 July 2010 12:20

emerystora

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On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Keith V wrote:

>
>
> What failed? The motor or the compressor itself?
>
> I've been wanting to do a york system like Darcy did but the motor is hard to come by, not to mention it's a ways down the priority list.
>
> If it's the compressor, yorks are around.
>
> Don't toss the system if you decide not to use it. If nothing else there are parts I'd want.
> --
> Keith

I had an old Onan starter motor that had a bad gear tooth.
I cut off the bell housing on the end (aluminum casting) so that I could mount a pulley but that contained the shaft bearing. So I fashioned a plate to bolt to the end and put in a small 1/2" ball bearing to hold that end of the shaft.

I can post pictures if anyone wants them.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM

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Re: [GMCnet] Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93314 is a reply to message #93280]

Mon, 26 July 2010 14:46

LYNN L

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Charles, that"s one hell of a compressor you have there. Kinda reminds me of an old story about using a sledge hammer to kill a piss ant.. Laughing

I use 2 of the harbor freight cheapo models. One is mounted under the drivers side fender and the other in the origional spot by the closet. With the new 4-bagger from Jim only 90 lbs. gets my coach to the proper height..
Lynn

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Re: Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93324 is a reply to message #93275]

Mon, 26 July 2010 15:25

Little Yimmy

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Keith V wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 10:43

What failed? The motor or the compressor itself?

What happened was the solenoid froze which caused the motor to run continuously. It either popped the safety valve, a fitting or a hose and ran till the motor burned up. The compressor itself is in great shape and is staying right where it is. Dead flat empty to full up in less than 90 seconds is hard to beat.

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Re: [GMCnet] Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93325 is a reply to message #93280]

Mon, 26 July 2010 15:28

Little Yimmy

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Charles wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 11:18

Jim,
On the york compressor units Bill Bramlet makes he uses
starter generators like the ones used in golf carts.

I will definitely look into this one and let you know how it pans out.

Little Yimmy - W9VUA
75 PB - F260206
Twin Cities, MN

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Re: Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93326 is a reply to message #93284]

Mon, 26 July 2010 15:29

Little Yimmy

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bryant374 wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 11:33

Sounds like the golf cart starter/generator would make an excellent replacement.

Thanks Bill. See my response to Charles.

Little Yimmy - W9VUA
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Twin Cities, MN

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Re: [GMCnet] Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93334 is a reply to message #93280]

Mon, 26 July 2010 16:42

Keith V

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Charles wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 11:18

So, which golf cart starter did you use??
Some only draw 15 amps which seems low for a compressor of that size

Keith Vasilakes
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Re: [GMCnet] Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93352 is a reply to message #93334]

Mon, 26 July 2010 18:33

Charles

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I don't know which starter/generator I used. I tried to read the tag
but I can not read a lot of it where it is positioned.
Because of where it is located all I can read on the unit is Columbia
ParCar, made in Deerfield WI. part number 30083-95, 12 volt.
There is other information but I have not been able to read it.
There is a John Deer tractor starter/generator on Ebay right now
I think the last bid was 37.00. has 2 hours to go.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1968-john-deere-110-starter-generator-110-111-112-120-/120598202106?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c143686fa
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Re: [GMCnet] Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93354 is a reply to message #93352]

Mon, 26 July 2010 18:42

Keith V

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I did find a couple of interesting threads about 12 powered Yorks...

http://dump.fm/images/20100711/1278823239379-dumpfm-mario-seinfeld-cigar.gif

And

http://dump.fm/images/20100711/1278823239379-dumpfm-mario-seinfeld-cigar.gif

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Re: [GMCnet] Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93355 is a reply to message #93334]

Mon, 26 July 2010 18:39

Charles

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You might try googleing 30083-95
It can give you additional information.
Charles
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Re: [GMCnet] Darcy Moses' compressor [message #93390 is a reply to message #93354]

Mon, 26 July 2010 21:29

Keith V

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Keith V wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 18:42

What the heck, where did those links come from?

This is what I meant to post...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=818352

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=64942

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