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[GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92505] Sun, 18 July 2010 23:05 Go to next message
Charles is currently offline  Charles   United States
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Does anybody know what is the average gas
consumption of a 6000 watt Onan is per hour.
It seems like this was covered a couple years ago
but I don't find it anywhere.
Charles
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92507 is a reply to message #92505] Sun, 18 July 2010 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I seem to recall seeing it was about one gallon per hour. But I cannot find now where I saw that.

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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92509 is a reply to message #92507] Mon, 19 July 2010 00:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have heard .8 per hour under full load. I have nothing to back that up.

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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92519 is a reply to message #92505] Mon, 19 July 2010 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:05:09 -0500 "Charles" <gcw13@sbcglobal.net>
writes:
> Does anybody know what is the average gas
> consumption of a 6000 watt Onan is per hour.
> It seems like this was covered a couple years ago
> but I don't find it anywhere.
> Charles

The spec is in the Onan manual but as I recall it is 1/2 GPH at half load
and 3/4 GPH at full load.

The manual might be found at Billys Massey's most excellent Publications
site.
>


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92549 is a reply to message #92505] Mon, 19 July 2010 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Full load is not a likely utilization rate.  I have a 4K Onan.  I ran a line into a gas can and with the AC running (1400 watts = 1/3 of maximum load).  It used 1/3 gallon in one hour.  Your results may vary.  That seems consistent with estimates of one gallon at full load for a 6K Onan. 

In the hot Nevada desert, my fan clutch was kicking in on every hill; I expect the use of a dash air unit (if I had one) would have made the clutch run more.  In addition to the load a compressor, my fuel mileage could have easily suffered by more than 1/3 gallon per hour. 

I ran my replacement 15K BTU AC for 4 hours on the road last Thursday (1,650 watts).  I do not know consumption of fuel; at 60 mph a separate fuel source seemed risky - but it did use a quart of oil over 6 hours.

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Subject: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption
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Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 9:05 PM

Does anybody know what is the average gas
consumption of a 6000 watt Onan is per hour.
It seems like this was covered a couple years ago
but I don't find it anywhere.
Charles
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92555 is a reply to message #92549] Mon, 19 July 2010 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Charles, I am thinking mine does about what Doug said. It just does not seem to be as bad as some portray, especially running down the road. I know it is not really loaded with one a/c. We run our's when it is very hot, like now, to help the dash air, and sometimes with dash air cut off.
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92586 is a reply to message #92555] Mon, 19 July 2010 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks to everyone for their replies.
1/2 to 1 gallon per hour. OK !
Thanks Charles
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92587 is a reply to message #92505] Mon, 19 July 2010 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since I was going to be working on the GMC today I figured I would find out for myself what the fuel consumption of the 6000 Onan is. Here's what I did:

I used a large Belvedere vodka bottle which is 60 ounces (just under 2 quarts) to the brim. I took some fuel hose and connected it to the Onan, stuck the other end into a gas can, and got the Onan warmed up running a 13.5K Carrier lo-profile air conditioner. After a few minutes I moved the hose to the gasoline-filled vodka bottle and started the timer. The bottle was empty in 58 minutes.

I put the hose back into the gas can, refilled the vodka bottle with gasoline, and started the second air conditioner, a 13.5K Penguin. Moving the hose to the bottle and restarting the timer, with both airs running the bottle was empty in 41 minutes.

So, with one A/C running the Onan 6000 uses a half gallon an hour. With both airs running it uses a bit under 3/4 gallon an hour.





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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92588 is a reply to message #92587] Mon, 19 July 2010 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Inquiring minds want to know, how long to empty the original contents of the 2 qt bottle. Wink Thanks for the semi-controlled experiment, your findings seem to match what I've heard or read on the subject.
I am guessing that this is with the stock ignition system. I believe an electronic ignition may produce better results, but not to any significant extent. I installed a CDI in mine (still using Onan points) and it improved the running of the generator. Now, to finish re-building the carb.

Tom Phipps,
75 GMC Ex-Avion, with a 6k version of Mr. Onan's generator.


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92591 is a reply to message #92588] Mon, 19 July 2010 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Bob, confirms our thinking. I do have the Pertronix but have no empty vodka bottle. So, I can not test the solid state ignition.
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92593 is a reply to message #92591] Mon, 19 July 2010 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan, you will just have to purchase a full one and work your way down. Ha
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On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92594 is a reply to message #92593] Mon, 19 July 2010 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL, I am thinking a 1/2 gallon milk container might be better for me. Laughing
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92595 is a reply to message #92505] Mon, 19 July 2010 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom,

Let me see if I can make this sound like a report:

We just got back home yesterday from an 8 day trip in the GMC, so the vodka consumption had noticeably increased over the last week or so. Usual consumption is about 2qt/month (one bottle) between Donna and myself, sometimes more during the time of year that air conditioning is needed. When two air conditioners are needed then the vodka and cranberry juice (or lemonade) consumption can be excessive.

The empty bottle came in handy today. I was looking for something that gasoline wouldn't dissolve and that had a small neck, unlike a can, so evaporation (and fire hazard) would be minimized.

I still have the type 1 points on the Onan. I put a standard Delco condenser on the coil negative terminal and removed the one from the breaker point box, it makes servicing the points easier with only points in the point box. I've got about 2 years on this set and the Onan still runs fine. I've got several points sets in the toolbox so I will need to use them up before converting to Pertronix or other switching device. At the current rate that will be in about 6 to 8 years.

I've noticed that when people change out the generator they mainly use Honda and Generac units. What's wrong with a new Onan? I think these old Onan power-drawer generators are pretty durable units and plan to keep mine until it needs expensive repairs. The way it's been for me so far is, yes, occasionally it breaks, but it costs peanuts to fix. When something expensive happens to this one I would definitely look to buy another Onan. This one is almost 37 years old and still going strong, hopefully Onan makes their current generators to last like this one.

Enough rambling, gotta get back to work!


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92598 is a reply to message #92594] Mon, 19 July 2010 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"LOL, I am thinking a 1/2 gallon milk container might be better for me.
Dan "

Ha! Or, better yet, a half gallon ice cream container!


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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92602 is a reply to message #92587] Mon, 19 July 2010 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,
I/we owe you a debt of gratitude. You went the extra mile with this test.
That should pretty much answer the question for a long time.
Thank you very much.
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan gas consumption [message #92612 is a reply to message #92505] Mon, 19 July 2010 19:48 Go to previous message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:06:36 -0500 Bob Heller <rheller@cfl.rr.com>
writes:
>
>
> Since I was going to be working on the GMC today I figured I would
> find out for myself what the fuel consumption of the 6000 Onan is.
.
>
> So, with one A/C running the Onan 6000 uses a half gallon an hour.
> With both airs running it uses a bit under 3/4 gallon an hour.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Bob Heller
> 1974 X-Canyonlands 26ft
> Winter Springs FL

Thanks Bob-You confirm exactly what I told the troops earlier today.
"The spec is in the Onan manual but as I recall it is 1/2 GPH at half
load
and 3/4 GPH at full load."


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