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[GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91205] Mon, 05 July 2010 20:16 Go to next message
Gerald Work is currently offline  Gerald Work   United States
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So far we have traversed more than 6,000,000 meters, actually a bit over 3800 miles with little or no issue. A starter solenoid and one tire so far. We are sitting Arcadia NP watching a placid Atlantic ocean that looks far more like a western lake than the rugged Pacific shoreline with which we are more familiar.

Fuel continues to go all over the place from seemingly good to seemingly atrocious. It became quite good through PA and NY but seems to have degenerated again in NH, VT and ME. All the pumps say 10 percent ethanol, but this fuel boils and wants to vapor lock even on minor hills. It is very hot and the issue is greater in the late afternoon when everything is well heat soaked, bit it still points to something different in the fuel. I am needing the aux electric fuel pump on most hills from 3:00 pm on. Hope the fuel improves in the Maritime Provinces.

I did finally solve the question of the 460 amp hours installed in this coach. A few days ago I talked about using 4 115 batteries and someone correctly pointed out that that would only result in 230 amp hours at 12 volts. At the time I thought I must have confused this installation with another I recently did using 8 of those 115s. I guess I just had a senior moment. When I did this coach I used four of the high density 6 volt Interstate batteries that have 232 amp hours each so the total is 460 amp hours at 12 volts as I originally thought. Sorry for the confusion.

An interesting observation for those of you who care is that we run the Fantastic vent all night long on these very hot nights. Even after watching sat. Tv in the evening and the next morning, running the lights until around 11 and fixing breakfast using the inverter for things like grinding coffee beans (not the MW or the toaster), recharging the iPad and phone, etc., we use only about 15 percent of the available battery capacity. Nice.

Driving the back roads on NE is very slow. Traffic can be quite heavy at times and the back roads are often not very good. Kinda like the topes in Mexico slow down traffic without any enforcement needed, these bouncy and rutted roads mixed with lots of traffic keeps speed way down all by themselves. Gas mileage also suffers and our overall for the trip is now at 8.4.

Another slow down occurred on the 4th. Seems the town of Gorham, NH has a really big holiday event including a parade and carny rides. The problem is they do so by closing US2 for an hour or so backing traffic up nearly all the way across the panhandle of the state. No signs, no warning, just dead stopped traffic with everyone wondering what happened ahead. Only in small town America I guess.

More later. For now, life is good and we are enjoying our year of travel celebration.

Jerry and Sharon Work
78 Royale rear lounge
Strong 455, 3:50 gearing

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Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91208 is a reply to message #91205] Tue, 06 July 2010 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oldngray is currently offline  Oldngray   United States
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Have followed you across the Country, really enjoy your Posts, thanks.
Is it just our Coaches that are so adversely affected by the quality of fuel or do all vehicles see the decrease in mileage with Ethenol?


Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91210 is a reply to message #91205] Tue, 06 July 2010 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David L Greenberg is currently offline  David L Greenberg   United States
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On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:16:01 -0400 Gerald Work <glwork@me.com> writes:
> So far we have traversed more than 6,000,000 meters, actually a bit
> over 3800 miles with little or no issue.
Snip...............
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>
> More later. For now, life is good and we are enjoying our year of
> travel celebration.
>
> Jerry and Sharon Work
> 78 Royale rear lounge
> Strong 455, 3:50 gearing
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
It is a great adventure! We spent the entire year 1977 in our 1st GMC
with 2 pre teens and throughly enjoyed it. Covered 30k miles that year,
following good weather when we had the option.

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Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91211 is a reply to message #91205] Tue, 06 July 2010 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David L Greenberg is currently offline  David L Greenberg   United States
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:06:26 -0500 Richard MacDonald <rm1936@gmail.com>
writes:
>
>
> Have followed you across the Country, really enjoy your Posts,
> thanks.
> Is it just our Coaches that are so adversely affected by the quality
> of fuel or do all vehicles see the decrease in mileage with
> Ethenol?
>
> --
> Richard MacDonald
> Punta Gorda, Florida
> 76 Edgemonte TZE 266V102313
> 94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado
>

I can't comment on the impact on my CTS because it has never sipped non
ethanol laced fuel, but my 48 Packard does NOT like it. Not only is
economy suffered (which wasn't great to begin with) but I had to add a
filter to catch the crap ethanol was leaching from the fuel lines.


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Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91213 is a reply to message #91211] Tue, 06 July 2010 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oldngray is currently offline  Oldngray   United States
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Hi David,
What does your CTS (what is that) drink, if not Gasolene?


Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91214 is a reply to message #91208] Tue, 06 July 2010 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Martin is currently offline  Dave Martin   United States
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Oldngray wrote on Tue, 06 July 2010 06:06

.....
Is it just our Coaches that are so adversely affected by the quality of fuel or do all vehicles see the decrease in mileage with Ethenol?



Ethanol releases 2/3 the energy per gallon compared to gasoline so it is reasonable that vehicles get worse mileage using a gasoline - ethanol blend.

A 10% blend of ethanol per gallon of fuel releases about 3% less energy than straight gasoline so one would expect about a 3% reduction in mileage (if energy balance is the only consideration.)

But if the 10% ethanol containing fuel costs 3% less (as in Iowa) it is a break even situation.
Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91221 is a reply to message #91205] Tue, 06 July 2010 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Enjoying the trip along with you! Any pictures of the great northeast?

Tom Eckert N2VWN

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Oakland, TN
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Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91237 is a reply to message #91205] Tue, 06 July 2010 07:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David L Greenberg is currently offline  David L Greenberg   United States
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:35:25 -0500 Richard MacDonald <rm1936@gmail.com>
writes:
>
>
> Hi David,
> What does your CTS (what is that) drink, if not Gasolene?
> --
> Richard MacDonald
> Punta Gorda, Florida
> 76 Edgemonte TZE 266V102313
> 94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado
>
>
"CTS because it has never sipped non
ethanol laced fuel,"

I'm afraid I was somewhat obtuse. The (Cadillac) CTS uses ethanol
gasolene. It doesn't know fuel without ethanol.
I get 17-18 city and 25-27 hwy It has a direct injected V6. I suspect it
might do better with non ethanol fuel.
>


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Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91238 is a reply to message #91237] Tue, 06 July 2010 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CTS stands for "Cadillac Touring Sedan" if I'm not mistaken.

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 08:39:08 -0400
> From: davegreenberg1@juno.com
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11
>
>
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:35:25 -0500 Richard MacDonald <rm1936@gmail.com>
> writes:
>>
>>
>> Hi David,
>> What does your CTS (what is that) drink, if not Gasolene?
>> --
>> Richard MacDonald
>> Punta Gorda, Florida
>> 76 Edgemonte TZE 266V102313
>> 94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado
>>
>>
> "CTS because it has never sipped non
> ethanol laced fuel,"
>
> I'm afraid I was somewhat obtuse. The (Cadillac) CTS uses ethanol
> gasolene. It doesn't know fuel without ethanol.
> I get 17-18 city and 25-27 hwy It has a direct injected V6. I suspect it
> might do better with non ethanol fuel.
>>
>
>
> David Lee Greenberg
> Port St Lucie, FL skype: david.lee.greenberg
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Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure - part 11 [message #91252 is a reply to message #91205] Tue, 06 July 2010 10:45 Go to previous message
rallymaster is currently offline  rallymaster   United States
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3% drop in mileage with 10% ethanol would be bad enough, but most of the
folks I've talked to say it's more like 11%. That's been my observation,
also.

RonC

On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:36:35 -0500 Dave Martin <dmartin@newarts.com>
writes:
>
>
> Oldngray wrote on Tue, 06 July 2010 06&#58;06
> > .....
> > Is it just our Coaches that are so adversely affected by the
> quality of fuel or do all vehicles see the decrease in mileage with
> Ethenol?
>
>
> Ethanol releases
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent so it is
> reasonable that vehicles get worse mileage using a gasoline -
> ethanol blend.
>
> A 10% blend of ethanol per gallon of fuel releases about 3% less
> energy than straight gasoline so one would expect about a 3%
> reduction in mileage (if energy balance is the only consideration.)
>
> But if the 10% ethanol containing fuel costs 3% less (as in Iowa) it
> is a break even situation.
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